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Old 04-18-2008, 05:08 PM  
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A brand spanking new Jared Allen thread
According to a Vikes' board (this is probably from their Scout.com site like the similiarly unlinked report from yesterday):

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- The Chiefs want more than the 1st and 3rd the Vikings are alleged to have offered. It is said that it will take a "wow offer" to get them to agree to the trade.

- Time is an important factor. If Allen was signed to an offer sheet then the Chiefs would be guaranteed seven days to match it. An offer sheet would have to be signed and approved by the league by tomorrow (Saturday) to give KC seven days before the draft.

Without the offer sheet option to fall back on, the entire deal hinges on the Vikings being able to offer the Chiefs enough in return to make the trade. If they don't offer a deal to the Chiefs liking, Allen isn't coming.

- The Vikings believe more teams, at least 3, have contacted KC about Allen in the last 24 hours once all this news got out. But in terms of having the picks to satisfy the Chiefs and the cap room to get a deal done, the Vikings believe they're in the lead.

- One of the 3 teams, though, is rumored to be New England, and the chance of getting their high first rounder is going to entice the Chiefs a lot more than getting Minnesota's. The Patriots also have a high third round pick (4 spots higher than the Vikings' first pick in that round).

Still, it's not known what, if anything, the Patriots have offered. And it's unlikely the Chiefs would want to trade Allen to an AFC team.
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Old 04-18-2008, 06:01 PM   #76
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My bet is on a conditional 5th round pick, which becomes a 4th if Allen gets more than 10 sacks for Minnesnowter.
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according to 38 the spot-Vikes are talking with Cheaps-1st and 2nd.
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Old 04-18-2008, 06:02 PM   #78
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You know how it would go. They'd acquire the 6 picks we're dreaming about, and then end up drafting Brandon Albert and 5 people none of us have ever heard about.
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Old 04-18-2008, 06:04 PM   #80
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can a team fit two top 10 picks with the rookie pool?
The rookie pool is determined after the draft. So the more picks and the higher the picks we have we will get a larger rookie pool.
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according to 38 the spot-Vikes are talking with Cheaps-1st and 2nd.
*rubs hands together*

I'd be enthused with this.

Vikes' 1st and 2nd.

I think I'd like this a lot more than the Pats' 1st and 3rd, because we're not going to be able to give away the #7 overall without losing out on value. Every team in the NFL would know we're basically forced to get rid of it and no one will offer fair value for it.

Vikes' 1st and 2nd would still give us four picks in the first 47 or so... It's the ideal option outside of two 1sts.
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Old 04-18-2008, 06:06 PM   #82
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Jared Allen sounds completely opposite of the type of player New England wants. He doesn't have the size to play DE and he doesn't have the speed to play OLB in the 3-4. Not to mention the Patriots rarely trade for players, they never pay players a lot of money, and they never enter a deal where they end up with fewer picks than when they started.

If the Patriots are truly involved in this, I'll be the most surprised person in the building.
Just about everything you said has been thrown out the window in the last year.

- They traded for Wes Welker for a 2nd and 7th round draft pick. They also traded a 4th for Randy Moss.
- They gave Adalius Thomas a large contract last year and Randy Moss a huge contract this year.
- And obviously the Wes Welker trade and the Randy Moss trade resulted in them having less picks than before.

Recent history with the Patriots is pretty much the exact opposite of everything you just said.
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Just about everything you said has been thrown out the window in the last year.

- They traded for Wes Welker for a 2nd and 7th round draft pick. They also traded a 4th for Randy Moss.
- They gave Adalius Thomas a large contract last year and Randy Moss a huge contract this year.
- And obviously the Wes Welker trade and the Randy Moss trade resulted in them having less picks than before.

Recent history with the Patriots is pretty much the exact opposite of everything you just said.
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Old 04-18-2008, 06:08 PM   #84
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I'm pretty sure the rookie pool is based on the picks a team has. The Raiders last year had one of the biggest rookie pool amounts ever because they had 11 total picks, including #1 overall and like 4-5 other picks on the first day. And their pool was $6-$7 million.

The Chiefs have at least $20 some million in cap space, if not more. Especially if they aren't paying Allen. So unless they needed double the largest rookie pool in history, they should be okay.

I doubt there's anything to the Patriots talk, though. Note that they snuck the word "rumored" in there.
They have closer to $30 million in cap room.
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"Are you Christian? Are you single?"

Nothing like the ads during 38 sports spot.
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I will say that out of the dozen, this is by far the most informative and most entertaining Jared Allen thread on CP right now.
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"Are you Christian? Are you single?"

Nothing like the ads during 38 sports spot.
lmao it ran again to end the break.

I guess single Christians are a primary demographic of the sports spot.
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"Are you Christian? Are you single?"

Nothing like the ads during 38 sports spot.
It would have been funnier since Allen is on if the first ad was "do you ever feel like having a beer?"
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It would have been funnier since Allen is on if the first ad was "do you ever feel like having a beer?"
I didn't do it justice. You have to imagine a sultry-voiced woman saying "Are you Christan? Are you single?" like it's any other late-night 900 line.
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