Chiefs Andy Reid with Peter King - Page 6

**DeezNutz** · 01-15-2013, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Is Jamaal Charles injury prone?

All RBs are injury prone to an extent. Nature of the position, which is why they're turn and burn.

Brokaki is injury prone. There is no getting around it or excusing it.

Hammock Parties · 01-15-2013, 08:36 PM

Nice backhanded Pioli slam.

Chris Meck · 01-15-2013, 09:07 PM

I think our biggest problem areas are that in a Quarterback driven league, we have no quarterback and defensively we have exactly half of an NFL starting secondary. We need a QB, a CB, and a S so bad it's not even funny. With plus play in those three slots, this 2-14 could be a 10-6 team or better.

**BossChief** · 01-15-2013, 09:23 PM

If we draft Geno Smith and this Sutton character has enough sense to send Hali and Houston after the quarterback constantly, this team will make the playoffs NEXT YEAR.

The way our defense has played the last couple years on a team totally devoid of offensive production has been highly impressive and I can't wait to see them with the energy injection they will get from Andy Reid and Geno Smith.

Remember the energy the defense played with when Orton was in for those 3 games?

Put Geno Smith in our lockerroom and it's all over.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-15-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

If we draft Geno Smith and this Sutton character has enough sense to send Hali and Houston after the quarterback constantly, this team will make the playoffs NEXT YEAR.

The way our defense has played the last couple years on a team totally devoid of offensive production has been highly impressive and I can't wait to see them with the energy injection they will get from Andy Reid and Geno Smith.

Remember the energy the defense played with when Orton was in for those 3 games?

Put Geno Smith in our lockerroom and it's all over.

I think you're smoking crack.

All things being equal in terms of injury, the Broncos, Patriots, Ravens, Texans, Bengals and Colts are far ahead of the Chiefs and should all contend for division titles and playoff berths. Teams like the Steelers and Dolphins should contend as well.

Geno Smith is NOT RGIII or Luck, so it's silly to pencil in the Chiefs as an automatic playoff team IF they draft him.

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-15-2013, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think you're smoking crack.

All things being equal in terms of injury, the Broncos, Patriots, Ravens, Texans, Bengals and Colts are far ahead of the Chiefs and should all contend for division titles and playoff berths. Teams like the Steelers and Dolphins should contend as well.

Geno Smith is NOT RGIII or Luck, so it's silly to pencil in the Chiefs as an automatic playoff team IF they draft him.

Nearly all of these teams have very solid to great QBs.

Putting Brady on last season's Chiefs makes them an instant SB contender.

ALL of these teams struggle to win 8 without their QB.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-15-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Nearly all of these teams have very solid to great QBs.

Putting Brady on last season's Chiefs makes them an instant SB contender.

ALL of these teams struggle to win 8 without their QB.

The Patriots didn't struggle to win 8 games without Brady in 2008.

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-15-2013, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Patriots didn't struggle to win 8 games without Brady in 2008.

They played the NFCW. Irrelevant.

Chris Meck · 01-15-2013, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think you're smoking crack.

All things being equal in terms of injury, the Broncos, Patriots, Ravens, Texans, Bengals and Colts are far ahead of the Chiefs and should all contend for division titles and playoff berths. Teams like the Steelers and Dolphins should contend as well.

Geno Smith is NOT RGIII or Luck, so it's silly to pencil in the Chiefs as an automatic playoff team IF they draft him.

No, he may not be. But what if he's a Flacco, or a Dalton? Or a Matt Ryan? Not comparing games, but relative skill level?

It seems to me that you must have a plus player at QB to contend. Doesn't have to be top 3 or even top 5, you just have to get consistently good play there. If you don't have one, you've gotta do whatever you have to to get one.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-15-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

No, he may not be. But what if he's a Flacco, or a Dalton? Or a Matt Ryan? Not comparing games, but relative skill level?

What if he's Tim Couch? Cade McNown? Akili Smith?

That game can be played at multiple angles.

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

It seems to me that you must have a plus player at QB to contend. Doesn't have to be top 3 or even top 5, you just have to get consistently good play there. If you don't have one, you've gotta do whatever you have to to get one.

It's way too early to predict which QB is going where and it's way too early to predict that any of these guys, let alone the Chiefs choice, is the right choice.

Any speculation at this point is fruitless.

**BossChief** · 01-15-2013, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think you're smoking crack.

All things being equal in terms of injury, the Broncos, Patriots, Ravens, Texans, Bengals and Colts are far ahead of the Chiefs and should all contend for division titles and playoff berths. Teams like the Steelers and Dolphins should contend as well.

Geno Smith is NOT RGIII or Luck, so it's silly to pencil in the Chiefs as an automatic playoff team IF they draft him.

I said if we draft Geno Smith AND Sutton runs a good defense, we will be in the playoffs.

Geno will be able to put points on the board and this defense has had stretches where they flashed DOMINANCE.

I like our chances.

I'd like them a lot more if Pioli hadn't ran off guys like Tony Gonzalez, Brandon Carr and Bernard Pollard.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-15-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I said if we draft Geno Smith AND Sutton runs a good defense, we will be in the playoffs.

Geno will be able to put points on the board and this defense has had stretches where they flashed DOMINANCE.

I like our chances.

I'd like them a lot more if ***** hadn't ran off guys like Tony Gonzalez, Brandon Carr and Bernard Pollard.

I don't like the chances, at all.

Sutton's stint as a DC was less than impressive. The Combines are weeks away and there's no consensus on the best player available.

Smith is NOT Luck or Griffin. Repeat, NOT Luck or Griffin. There would have a be a shitload of luck for the Chiefs to win 7 games in 2013, let alone be a playoff contender.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-15-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think you're smoking crack.

All things being equal in terms of injury, the Broncos, Patriots, Ravens, Texans, Bengals and Colts are far ahead of the Chiefs and should all contend for division titles and playoff berths. Teams like the Steelers and Dolphins should contend as well.

Geno Smith is NOT RGIII or Luck, so it's silly to pencil in the Chiefs as an automatic playoff team IF they draft him.

The Colts are not far ahead of the Chiefs. That was a sub .500 team with preposterous luck. The Steelers have gotten worse every year for the last three years and show no signs of being able to get out of that downward slide.

The Broncos will be the 1994 Chiefs next year. The Dolphins just seem like a .500 team.

I don't think the Chiefs are a playoff team next year either, but the AFC is a god awful conference.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-15-2013, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The Colts are not far ahead of the Chiefs. That was a sub .500 team with preposterous luck.

As long as the Colts have a healthy Andrew Luck, they're far ahead of the Chiefs, IMO.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The Steelers have gotten worse every year for the last three years and show no signs of being able to get out of that downward slide.

I agree. They fired Arians and hired Haley, only to continue that decline. They have an aging roster and are likely facing the loss of Mike Wallace (not that he did much this past year).

That said, they always seem to hang around until the very end, despite all of their flaws.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The Broncos will be the 1994 Chiefs next year. The Dolphins just seem like a .500 team.

The Broncos were really hurt by the loss of McGahee. Their defense, outside of Champ Bailey, is youngish. They have offensive weapons. If they can somehow obtain a solid running back or two, it's hard to count them out with Manning at the helm.

I think the Dolphins are ascending. How far they ascend is a big question mark because their roster is almost as bad as the Chiefs. But they do have the QB in place, so they just need to build around him. Their defense is generally solid each week.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I don't think the Chiefs are a playoff team next year either, but the AFC is a god awful conference.

It's "weak" but there are teams on the rise, like the Colts and Dolphins. The Texans won't go anywhere next year, either.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-15-2013, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

As long as the Colts have a healthy Andrew Luck, they're far ahead of the Chiefs, IMO.

I guess I look at it this way: If Geno Smith is 80-90% of what Andrew Luck was, the Chiefs would be better. The Chiefs are better than the Colts on every level of both sides of the ball, save for WR/TE where the Colts have more depth but the Chiefs' #1 is better at this point in his career.

That team gave up 350 ****ing rushing yards. That defense is terribad.

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