Chiefs The "IF no QB with the 1st pick" poll - Page 6

Frankie · 02-08-2013, 01:23 PM

Scenario (hypothetical):

It has become obvious that the Chiefs will pass on a QB with the top pick and will address the QB need (a) later in round 1, (b) in round 2, or (c) by signing a veteran. No trade down is planned either.

There seems to be the following three names on top of the draft. Among these three which one would you want the Chiefs to use their 1st pick on:

1- LT Luke Joekel (meaning Albert will walk)

2- DE Star Lotulelei (meaning T-Jax will be cut)

3- Jarvis Jones (meaning we are thinking transition to 43 soon)

4- Other (name and explain)

KEEP IN MIND

This is not a Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson discussion. Keep that argument in the hundreds of other threads about it. This is about IF WE DON'T PICK A QB AT THE TOP! Just curious to know which of the picks mentioned makes more sense compared to the others IYO. If you are a staunch Geno fan, for example, this does not paint you as a traitor to the cause.

Pasta Little Brioni · 02-08-2013, 06:26 PM

I can't describe how big of an abortion ending up with Jekyll as the number one pick would be. Wow...just wow. Talk about an absolute waste of a 2-14 season.

**RealSNR** · 02-08-2013, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Wouldn't you, assuming the situation of the thread is applied? If we lose Albert and don't take a QB at 1, we better ****ing draft Joeckel.

I'm surprised Donald Stephenson's sphincter works right now, considering he was raped 24/7 at all times in December.

People should embrace other ways of obtaining offensive linemen.

Fans are so eager to pursue a QB via free agency or in other rounds of the draft. If we let Albert walk, why the **** can't we do the same at the LT position?

It's a double standard brought on by true fan tardery and fear of a star QB. That's it. That's all it's ever been. And it's something that KC fans need to get the **** over.

"You start by building the offensive line" is an outdated philosophy that needs to die in a fire

Deberg_1990 · 02-08-2013, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Here are the results for just one team...

http://www.chargers.com/news/article...4-f2fd357d0140

Thats quite a few in just 15 years or so.

#1 overall, not just 1st round
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HotCarl · 02-08-2013, 06:38 PM

A cornerstone left tackle will help make any quarterback we find ourselves with look good. Acquire a hall of famer like Willie Roaf, and all of a sudden Trent Green becomes Trent Green. Mmmm

NJChiefsFan · 02-08-2013, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

depends on what happens w/ Albert

If no Albert...you have to draft the LT

Why? In that scenario we don't have a QB or a starting LT. Why does LT have to come before QB. It's like everyone's memories are erased after every season. People remember the results but have no memory of our QB's part in our franchise's history.

el borracho · 02-08-2013, 07:30 PM

No QB in the 1st? I won't bother watching if the Chiefs don't come up with a reasonable solution at the QB position.

**RealSNR** · 02-08-2013, 07:36 PM

I mean, just think of the options if we let Albert walk. We could draft competition for Stephenson in the 2nd rounds and later. We could sign one of these high profile free agent tackles that are set to hit the market. We could move players around on the line (ex. play Jeff Allen at tackle, his natural position in college). We could just say, "We're not going to build this team up all in one offseason" and wait until next year to take a tackle in the draft. After all, that's a line true fans like to use. How about we live by that line and give them a taste of their own medicine?

There are TONS of good ideas to replace Albert that don't involve pissing away the #1 ****ing overall pick on reeruned ****ing Luke ****ing Joeckel

**TribalElder** · 02-08-2013, 07:50 PM

No QB? Refund Please

Ebolapox · 02-08-2013, 07:51 PM

did ****ing hotcarl just seriously compare luke goddamned joekel to willie ****ing roaf? jesus titty**** MOTHER****ing christ on a pogo stick.

milkman · 02-08-2013, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Why do you think it's become obvious that a QB will not be taken #1?

Because Frankie is a dipshit true fan afraid to take a QB unless Mel Kiper tells him that he's a sure thing.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-08-2013, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HotCarl

A cornerstone left tackle will help make any quarterback we find ourselves with look good. Acquire a hall of famer like Willie Roaf, and all of a sudden Trent Green becomes Trent Green. Mmmm

"mmmm" my motherfuking ass. This post has succintly summmed up everything i hate about Chiefs fans and thier love of goddamned linemen.
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HolyHat · 02-08-2013, 11:45 PM

Dee Milliner

**007** · 02-09-2013, 01:23 AM

Only a true fan would want to vote in this poll. heh

chiefsfan_91 · 02-09-2013, 02:18 AM

Honestly, I truly hope that we don't draft a QB this year. There isn't a good one out there. The fact that Alex Smith is by far the best option at the position is just sad. Brandon Albert simply isn't a bookend LT like Reid's system requires. He'd be fine as a guard, but he's already publicly stated that he doesn't want to move back to guard. In my opinion, Albert is out. And that makes Joeckel the most logical choice. Geno Smith is a project at best. And frankly, you don't take projects with the number 1 pick. The Raiders made that mistake with JaMarcus Russell.

It doesn't matter who the QB is, if you don't have a good offensive line, you cannot win. Plain and simple. Just ask the Bears. And the Cardinals. And the Chargers. And the Eagles. The Super Bowl this season was evidence of that as well. Both teams had fantastic offensive lines.

stevieray · 02-09-2013, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by seclark

i don't know, man...i really think they need to take a qb.
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if they don't take a qb, it's going to be real hard to give a damn.

View Poll Results: If no QB then who?
LT Luke Joekel	40	31.01%
DE Star Lotulelei	30	23.26%
LB Jarvis Jones	19	14.73%
Other (who, why?)	40	31.01%
Voters: 129. You may not vote on this poll

02-08-2013, 01:23 PM
Frankie Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	The "IF no QB with the 1st pick" poll Scenario (hypothetical): It has become obvious that the Chiefs will pass on a QB with the top pick and will address the QB need (a) later in round 1, (b) in round 2, or (c) by signing a veteran. No trade down is planned either. There seems to be the following three names on top of the draft. Among these three which one would you want the Chiefs to use their 1st pick on: 1- LT Luke Joekel (meaning Albert will walk) 2- DE Star Lotulelei (meaning T-Jax will be cut) 3- Jarvis Jones (meaning we are thinking transition to 43 soon) 4- Other (name and explain) KEEP IN MIND This is not a Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson discussion. Keep that argument in the hundreds of other threads about it. This is about IF WE DON'T PICK A QB AT THE TOP! Just curious to know which of the picks mentioned makes more sense compared to the others IYO. If you are a staunch Geno fan, for example, this does not paint you as a traitor to the cause.
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02-08-2013, 06:26 PM	#76
Pasta Little Brioni Consuming CP souls Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: U.S.A. Casino cash: $2058880	I can't describe how big of an abortion ending up with Jekyll as the number one pick would be. Wow...just wow. Talk about an absolute waste of a 2-14 season. __________________ **Official TFWdemB Trivia Commisioner**
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02-08-2013, 06:38 PM	#79
HotCarl Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $10004900	A cornerstone left tackle will help make any quarterback we find ourselves with look good. Acquire a hall of famer like Willie Roaf, and all of a sudden Trent Green becomes Trent Green. Mmmm
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02-08-2013, 07:30 PM	#81
el borracho In Pat We Trust Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Albuquerque, NM Casino cash: $4449148	No QB in the 1st? I won't bother watching if the Chiefs don't come up with a reasonable solution at the QB position.
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02-08-2013, 07:36 PM	#82
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $415208	I mean, just think of the options if we let Albert walk. We could draft competition for Stephenson in the 2nd rounds and later. We could sign one of these high profile free agent tackles that are set to hit the market. We could move players around on the line (ex. play Jeff Allen at tackle, his natural position in college). We could just say, "We're not going to build this team up all in one offseason" and wait until next year to take a tackle in the draft. After all, that's a line true fans like to use. How about we live by that line and give them a taste of their own medicine? There are TONS of good ideas to replace Albert that don't involve pissing away the #1 **ing overall pick on reeruned ing Luke **ing Joeckel
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02-08-2013, 07:50 PM	#83
TribalElder Arrowhead Trail of Tears Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: KansasCity Casino cash: $840441	No QB? Refund Please
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02-08-2013, 07:51 PM	#84
Ebolapox remember, remember Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: como Casino cash: $139903	did **ing hotcarl just seriously compare luke goddamned joekel to willie ing roaf? jesus titty MOTHER**ing christ on a pogo stick.
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02-09-2013, 01:23 AM	#88
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02-09-2013, 02:18 AM	#89
chiefsfan_91 Rookie Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $10004900	Honestly, I truly hope that we don't draft a QB this year. There isn't a good one out there. The fact that Alex Smith is by far the best option at the position is just sad. Brandon Albert simply isn't a bookend LT like Reid's system requires. He'd be fine as a guard, but he's already publicly stated that he doesn't want to move back to guard. In my opinion, Albert is out. And that makes Joeckel the most logical choice. Geno Smith is a project at best. And frankly, you don't take projects with the number 1 pick. The Raiders made that mistake with JaMarcus Russell. It doesn't matter who the QB is, if you don't have a good offensive line, you cannot win. Plain and simple. Just ask the Bears. And the Cardinals. And the Chargers. And the Eagles. The Super Bowl this season was evidence of that as well. Both teams had fantastic offensive lines.
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