NFL Draft Countdown Has Added Round 2 - Page 6

jspchief · 02-08-2006, 09:54 AM

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

NFL Draft Countdown has added the second round to their mock. They have us taking a dude I know absolutely nothing about.

htismaqe · 02-14-2006, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I bust on that pick because I thought John Henderson was the better DT. I understand the scouting reports and the thinking that goes behind it. But, I still think the only reason we went out of our way to take Sims was because of Vermiels buddy John Bunting.

Henderson looks OK in the NFL now because he plays next to a REAL stud in Jacksonville.

Sims plays with guys like Browning and Siavii.

Without Stroud, he'd look just like Sims, Haynesworth, and the rest of that class.

htismaqe · 02-14-2006, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

This also should clear-up our conversation about Gabe Watson and being recognized in the Big 10...

This really doesn't clear anything up. It was a down year for DT's in the Big 10. For example, Jimmy Kennedy was (in college) 2-3 times the player that anybody in this group is, including Watson.

Being the best of a bad bunch doesn't make one great.

But we could go on with this all day. We'll see what happens on draft day.

Eleazar · 02-14-2006, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

You could have made an argument for Henderson over Sims, but neither was clearly better. I just don't think you can sit back and say "we took a risk on Sims". It's not like we reached by taking him when we did.

I actually respect that our team had a guy targeted and did what they needed to land him.

Yeah, Sims wasn't a reach where we took him. Any other team in the league with a need at DT would have done the same thing.

He's got no help around him.

Chiefnj · 02-14-2006, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Yeah, Sims wasn't a reach where we took him. Any other team in the league with a need at DT would have done the same thing.

He's got no help around him.

The #6 pick is supposed to elevate those around him. Allen does well no matter who is lining up on his left. Sims has no excuse; other than the fact that he's a bust.

jspchief · 02-14-2006, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

The #6 pick is supposed to elevate those around him. Allen does well no matter who is lining up on his left. Sims has no excuse; other than the fact that he's a bust.

I'll agree with this. He should be the difference maker, not the role player, if he's taken #6 overall. In that aspect, I consider him a bust too.

But he's a bust in the same vein as other highly touted picks that didn't live up to hype/potential. Not because we reached for him or took a "risk" as Mecca indicated. He was arguably the best DT in the draft that year. Everyone got it wrong on this guy, not just KC.

I still have hopes for Sims. I think he has potential to be good to very good if he can stay healthy. The biggest knock on him at this point is he's injured too often to really get on a roll.

Chiefnj · 02-14-2006, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

I'll agree with this. He should be the difference maker, not the role player, if he's taken #6 overall. In that aspect, I consider him a bust too.

But he's a bust in the same vein as other highly touted picks that didn't live up to hype/potential. Not because we reached for him or took a "risk" as Mecca indicated. He was arguably the best DT in the draft that year. Everyone got it wrong on this guy, not just KC.

I still have hopes for Sims. I think he has potential to be good to very good if he can stay healthy. The biggest knock on him at this point is he's injured too often to really get on a roll.

I agree. He's a true bust. A guy that was supposed to go that high and never lived up to the expectation. Siavii is a bust to a much lesser degree. He was very raw coming out of college and shouldn't have been drafted as high as he was.

BigChiefFan · 02-14-2006, 11:58 AM

Sims really has been a disappointment so far. Everybody had high hopes for him and he certainly hasn't elevated his play, much less anybody's around him. Sims has been soft. I've given him the benefit of the doubt, but so far for the 6th overall pick, he's a fraud. He's the big reason we are even discussing Gabe Watson or any other DT in the first place.

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