Is Grossman the worst QB to ever start the Super Bowl? - Page 6

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-21-2007, 10:55 PM

I really can't think of anyone worse...who QB'ed the LA Rams against the Steelers? Even Kerry Collins was better than Grossman.

Hootie · 01-21-2007, 11:51 PM

what I don't like about Rex is the way he throws the ball...

His release is awkward and gets on my nerves...

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-21-2007, 11:51 PM

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His offensive coordinator, Ron Turner, doesn't help the matter.

Why the Bears pass so much with two solid RB's and a terriffic defense is beyond me, anyways.

Grossman is young and made rookie mistakes on a consistent basis all year long. Since he's essentially a rookie, I think that's ok, for now...

They compared his year this year, to Drew Brees' first year in San Diego, and the numbers were pretty identical.

Drew Brees turned out ok, didn't he?

And starting in the Super Bowl can do nothing but help Rex's confidence. If they win, I could see Rex becoming one of the best QB's in the leauge over the next 5 years. Confidence goes a long ways in the NFL if you're a QB.

Drew Brees is intelligent. Rex Grossman isn't.

**Bowser** · 01-21-2007, 11:51 PM

Grossman seems to have the tools and skills, but his problem is in his head. He makes a bad decision, and he seems to have trouble forgetting about it.

milkman · 01-21-2007, 11:53 PM

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There was a reason he was a 1st round pick and Croyle was a 3rd round pick...

That kinda sounds like, "There's a reason he's been a backup his whole career".

Hootie · 01-21-2007, 11:53 PM

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Drew Brees is intelligent. Rex Grossman isn't.

Yeah, ok.

I bet you've listened to a lot of Rex's interviews, haven't you?!

The guy is very intelligent and is the ultimate team player. He acknowledges is faults and bites the bullet when he's at fault. He understands he makes boneheaded plays, but seriously, the dude has 22 career starts now I believe. Give him a friggin' break.

Besides, you saying he isn't intelligent is just downright hilarious. You have no CLUE.

**KcMizzou** · 01-21-2007, 11:53 PM

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That kinda sounds like, "There's a reason he's been a backup his whole career".

Thats gonna leave a mark.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-21-2007, 11:54 PM

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hahahaha.

Now that is funny.

In terms of raw talent, Grossman has more talent than any QB the Chiefs have ever had.

Talent isn't a question with Grossman, it's decision making.

There was a reason he was a 1st round pick and Croyle was a 3rd round pick...

So just to clarify, your stance is that Rex Grossman is more talented than Len Dawson and Joe Montana?

You're a profoundly reeruned motherfucker.

Hootie · 01-21-2007, 11:56 PM

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That kinda sounds like, "There's a reason he's been a backup his whole career".

Not really...

Trent Green is probably one of the least gifted QB's in the league, and if he was entering the draft, he'd probably be overlooked just like he was before...

What made Green great was his ability to master a system and use his head to make good plays. Scouts can't scout that...

That's why all of these talented guys like Ryan Leaf, Joey Harrington, David Carr etc... have been busts. All the talent in the world, but lack the makeup of a successful QB.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-21-2007, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Yeah, ok.

I bet you've listened to a lot of Rex's interviews, haven't you?!

The guy is very intelligent and is the ultimate team player. He acknowledges is faults and bites the bullet when he's at fault. He understands he makes boneheaded plays, but seriously, the dude has 22 career starts now I believe. Give him a friggin' break.

Besides, you saying he isn't intelligent is just downright hilarious. You have no CLUE.

Donovan McNabb SOUNDS intelligent when he gives an interview...but it's pretty damned easy to do so when you are coached through the process and given constant softballs...of course, this same McNabb scored a fucking ten on his Wonderlic...

Basing your assessment of his intelligence on canned interviews is about as smart as your claim that he's more talented than any QB the Chiefs have ever had.

ChiefaRoo · 01-21-2007, 11:57 PM

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So just to clarify, your stance is that Rex Grossman is more talented than Len Dawson and Joe Montana?

You're a profoundly reeruned motherfucker.

GO HJ GO!

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-21-2007, 11:57 PM

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Not really...

That's why all of these talented guys like Ryan Leaf, Joey Harrington, David Carr etc... have been busts. All the talent in the world, but lack the makeup of a successful QB.

Because they are fuckING IDIOTS who crack under pressure...just like your boy.

Hootie · 01-21-2007, 11:58 PM

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So just to clarify, your stance is that Rex Grossman is more talented than Len Dawson and Joe Montana?

You're a profoundly reeruned motherfucker.

Absolutely.

Joe Montana wasn't a super talented QB...he was just a winner with a very accurate and clutch arm.

He had all of the mental aspects of being a QB down to a T...that has nothing to do with talent.

Ryan Leaf had more talent than Joe Montana, too...

It's funny how you claim to be this super-intelligent person but you don't understand the most simple logic.

tk13 · 01-21-2007, 11:58 PM

I think Grossman has potential, he's got a great arm... but I definitely don't get the interview thing, that's about the worst possible argument... Grossman was the guy who said he wasn't prepared for a game because he was excited about partying for New Year's... yeaaaah, that's leadership.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-21-2007, 11:58 PM

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There was a reason he was a 1st round pick and Croyle was a 3rd round pick...

IIRC, 2003 was a pretty shallow draft for QB's.

Leftwich and Boller were second and third behind Carson Palmer.

Grossman was the 4th picked.

On talent alone, Croyle would have gone 4th also, behind Young, Leinart, and Cutler. Injuries pushed him to the 3rd.

Hootie · 01-21-2007, 11:59 PM

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Because they are fuckING IDIOTS who crack under pressure...just like your boy.

First off, Rex isn't 'my boy', and secondly, how has he cracked under pressure? The whole city of Chicago was calling for Griese and Rex has them in the Super Bowl.

That's cracking under pressure, alright!

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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1502500	I think Grossman has potential, he's got a great arm... but I definitely don't get the interview thing, that's about the worst possible argument... Grossman was the guy who said he wasn't prepared for a game because he was excited about partying for New Year's... yeaaaah, that's leadership.
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