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**Lzen** · 08-04-2008, 02:46 PM

Big 12 hate meter: From Texas to Iowa State

July 29, 2008 1:18 PM
Posted by ESPN.com's Tim Griffin
Every Big 12 team has a rival that inspires hatred. It's just the nature of competitive athletics, and particularly football.
While the conference offices have made a sportsmanship mandate a prominent part of pregame activities across the Big 12, fans don't always think that way.
With that in mind, here's an unofficial Big 12 conference hate meter, with the most despised rival first and the others in descending order.
1. Texas -- Everything's bigger and better in Texas, or so they say. But what's not to hate about the Longhorns for the rest of the Big 12 -- their traditional dominance, unmatched facilities, deep talent pool and even their mascot?
2. Oklahoma -- Opponents don't like seeing the same team winning. And after running roughshod over the Big Eight for 50 years and continuing their wild stampede through the Big 12, rivals have long been tired of the Sooners' historic supremacy.
3. Colorado -- Opposing fans see their supporters as every Rocky Mountain stereotype -- tree-loving, granola-munching, hybrid-driving Greeners. And it's even worse when they are winning with some regularity.
4. Kansas -- Their fans have always been accused of being the conference's smuggest during basketball season. Their recent football success is spreading that haughtiness into a 12-month-a-year attitude, rivals say.
5. Missouri -- Once the program woke up under Gary Pinkel, a new generation of fans are acting like they invented football, according to some adversarial fans. And it will get even worse if they finally win a Big 12 title.
6. Kansas State -- Traditional losers became national powers overnight when Bill Snyder was coaching them. That ascension came a little too quickly to many rivals.
7. Oklahoma State -- Boone Pickens' deep pockets and Mike Gundy's rants aren't the best selling points for a Big 12 wannabe power.
8. Texas A&M -- Their military traditions are the bedrock of support for the school's former students. But the collies, cannons and male cheerleaders are considered borderline strange by opposing fans.
9. Nebraska -- Their historical domination always was tempered by their fans. Vanquished foes always receive polite applause as they leave Memorial Stadium. But a return to dominance under Bo Pelini could shoot them up the hate meter -- particularly if he has a few hot-headed moments like his postgame dust-up with Bill Snyder a few years ago.
10. Texas Tech -- If you believe most of what you read on rival message boards, Mike Leach might be one of the Big 12's most popular coaches because of his well-chronicled idiosyncrasies. It will be interesting to see if that support holds if the Red Raiders fulfill hype and develop into BCS challengers this season.
11. Baylor -- Old Southwest Conference foes still remember the days of Mike Singletary and Walter Abercrombie when Grant Teaff built an enduring, powerful program. But those days are far removed from the present as Big 12 rivals now perceive them merely as permanent South Division cellar-dwellers.
12. Iowa State -- Rooting against the Cyclones is like booing Santa Claus or Lassie. The Cyclones were a popular choice for many Big 12 fans during Dan McCarney's near misses in 2004 and 2005 -- particularly because the Cyclones haven't won a conference title since sharing the Missouri Valley Conference crown in 1912.

KCinNY · 08-04-2008, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall

Did you expect them to applaud when that happened?

It would have been consistent with their self-reverential "Hey, we applaud the opponent when they get a first down against our third string." attitude.

To be honest, they mostly had looks of disbelief on their faces. One 60ish couple in particular looked as though they were watching their beloved grandchildren being ritualistically raped and tortured(which in a way they were).

KCinNY · 08-04-2008, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBo

Oh good lord, that's hardly the same as running a fake FG.

No, but what goes around comes around.

Nebraska and their fans have to understand that the entire old Big-8 is lining up to kick them while their down.

Sam Hall · 08-04-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KCinNY

It would have been consistent with their self-reverential "Hey, we applaud the opponent when they get a first down against our third string." attitude.

To be honest, they mostly had looks of disbelief on their faces. One 60ish couple in particular looked as though they were watching their beloved grandchildren being ritualistically raped and tortured(which in a way they were).

Neither you nor Skip have made a valid point.

**Skip Towne** · 08-04-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall

Did you expect them to applaud when that happened?

It's easy to be polite and loyal fans when you are running up the score on overmatched opponents. I hope you guys never come back so we can see just how loyal your fans are.

Sam Hall · 08-04-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KCinNY

No, but what goes around comes around.

Nebraska and their fans have to understand that the entire old Big-8 is lining up to kick them while their down.

Which is basically one of my points about every team in America being on both ends of blowouts.

Sam Hall · 08-04-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

It's easy to be polite and loyal fans when you are running up the score on overmatched opponents. I hope you guys never come back so we can see just how loyal your fans are.

That stadium will continue to be sold out from now until the end of time.

**Skip Towne** · 08-04-2008, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall

Neither you nor Skip have made a valid point.

That's because you are too stupid to see it. I've watched it go on for 40 years. I've enjoyed watching KU kick your ass but nothing was as good as seeing TT with their foot on your throat and keep on firing.

Sam Hall · 08-04-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

That's because you are too stupid to see it. I've watched it go on for 40 years.

GoBo and I have presented the stats. You're just spewing from the mouth.

**Bugeater** · 08-04-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KCinNY

No, but what goes around comes around.

Not really, we never relied on gimmicks to run it up.

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Originally Posted by KCinNY

Nebraska and their fans have to understand that the entire old Big-8 is lining up to kick them while their down.

And as I said earlier, I don't blame them one bit. I never have and never will complain about anyone running up the score.

KCinNY · 08-04-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall

Which is basically one of my points about every team in America being on both ends of blowouts.

Agree 100%.

It's refreshing that Husker fans now get to feel the pain of watching a team they love get hammered by 6 or 7 touchdowns.

Not much fun is it?

**Skip Towne** · 08-04-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KCinNY

Agree 100%.

It's refreshing that Husker fans now get to feel the pain of watching a team they love get hammered by 6 or 7 touchdowns.

Not much fun is it?

Yep

Sam Hall · 08-04-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KCinNY

Agree 100%.

It's refreshing that Husker fans now get to feel the pain of watching a team they love get hammered by 6 or 7 touchdowns.

Not much fun is it?

Of course not. I think what Nebraska used to do to Mizzou hurts you more than what Mizzou has recently done to Nebraska. Nebraska fans have moved on.

**Bugeater** · 08-04-2008, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KCinNY

Agree 100%.

It's refreshing that Husker fans now get to feel the pain of watching a team they love get hammered by 6 or 7 touchdowns.

Not much fun is it?

Honestly, when it gets that bad I just laugh it off. It's only a football game for chrissakes.

KCinNY · 08-04-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall

Of course not. I think what Nebraska used to do to Mizzou hurts you more than what Mizzou has recently done to Nebraska. Nebraska fans have moved on.

Well, on an internet message board, I don't presume to know your level of pain. Honestly, as a lifelong Mizzou fan, I'm pretty much desensitized to getting blown out by Nebraska, Oklahoma or any other traditional power.

The Nebraska fans I witnessed in Columbia last year looked pretty distraught, however.

KCinNY · 08-04-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBo

Honestly, when it gets that bad I just laugh it off. It's only a football game for chrissakes.

Nebraska fan says "It's just a game."

The people who elected Osborne to congress and sell standing room only tickets to Spring football games year after year.

That's rich.

08-04-2008, 02:46 PM
Lzen Supporter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Jan Quadrant Vincent 16 Casino cash: $1860692	Big 12 hate meter: From Texas to Iowa State Big 12 hate meter: From Texas to Iowa State July 29, 2008 1:18 PM Posted by ESPN.com's Tim Griffin Every Big 12 team has a rival that inspires hatred. It's just the nature of competitive athletics, and particularly football. While the conference offices have made a sportsmanship mandate a prominent part of pregame activities across the Big 12, fans don't always think that way. With that in mind, here's an unofficial Big 12 conference hate meter, with the most despised rival first and the others in descending order. 1. Texas -- Everything's bigger and better in Texas, or so they say. But what's not to hate about the Longhorns for the rest of the Big 12 -- their traditional dominance, unmatched facilities, deep talent pool and even their mascot? 2. Oklahoma -- Opponents don't like seeing the same team winning. And after running roughshod over the Big Eight for 50 years and continuing their wild stampede through the Big 12, rivals have long been tired of the Sooners' historic supremacy. 3. Colorado -- Opposing fans see their supporters as every Rocky Mountain stereotype -- tree-loving, granola-munching, hybrid-driving Greeners. And it's even worse when they are winning with some regularity. 4. Kansas -- Their fans have always been accused of being the conference's smuggest during basketball season. Their recent football success is spreading that haughtiness into a 12-month-a-year attitude, rivals say. 5. Missouri -- Once the program woke up under Gary Pinkel, a new generation of fans are acting like they invented football, according to some adversarial fans. And it will get even worse if they finally win a Big 12 title. 6. Kansas State -- Traditional losers became national powers overnight when Bill Snyder was coaching them. That ascension came a little too quickly to many rivals. 7. Oklahoma State -- Boone Pickens' deep pockets and Mike Gundy's rants aren't the best selling points for a Big 12 wannabe power. 8. Texas A&M -- Their military traditions are the bedrock of support for the school's former students. But the collies, cannons and male cheerleaders are considered borderline strange by opposing fans. 9. Nebraska -- Their historical domination always was tempered by their fans. Vanquished foes always receive polite applause as they leave Memorial Stadium. But a return to dominance under Bo Pelini could shoot them up the hate meter -- particularly if he has a few hot-headed moments like his postgame dust-up with Bill Snyder a few years ago. 10. Texas Tech -- If you believe most of what you read on rival message boards, Mike Leach might be one of the Big 12's most popular coaches because of his well-chronicled idiosyncrasies. It will be interesting to see if that support holds if the Red Raiders fulfill hype and develop into BCS challengers this season. 11. Baylor -- Old Southwest Conference foes still remember the days of Mike Singletary and Walter Abercrombie when Grant Teaff built an enduring, powerful program. But those days are far removed from the present as Big 12 rivals now perceive them merely as permanent South Division cellar-dwellers. 12. Iowa State -- Rooting against the Cyclones is like booing Santa Claus or Lassie. The Cyclones were a popular choice for many Big 12 fans during Dan McCarney's near misses in 2004 and 2005 -- particularly because the Cyclones haven't won a conference title since sharing the Missouri Valley Conference crown in 1912.
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