Music Who made Poison a Rock\Metal icon? - Page 6

**petegz28** · 01-02-2009, 09:18 AM

Ok, so I am flipping channels the other night and hit "metal mania" on Vh1 right? All the sudden I see this video of Posion doing some song and of course, they look nothing like the bundle of stickss they did in the 80's where they wore more makup than most women. It was a performance they were doing at a party and man they sounded like shit. So then last night during my channel flipping, I see Brett Michaels doing a TV ad for Time\Life Music for rock hits of the 80's or whatever. Once again I am ready to sling the remote at the TV for someone even aknowledging these peter-puffers, let alone making them out to be something they were the exact opposite of.

So Brett Michaels puts on a cowboy hat that is rolled up on the sides, takes on the Vince Neil biker look and all the sudden Poison is an icon of the 80's? These are the same bundle of stickss that named themselves "Riki Rachet, Bobbi Dahl, C.C. DeVille"???? The same guys who drew a double take on their album cover because you could not believe a guy would intentionally put on that much makeup and hairspray and not call himself a crossdresser?!

What a shame to see what was a good era of music being represented by the same ass-bundle of stickss that brought it down.

Someone please, stop this madness!!!!

phisherman · 01-02-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

You are correct. I don't know of any Queensrych's music. Silent Lucidity was a good tune. Other than that, I couldn't point anything of theirs out to you.

thus confirming that your knowledge of current music consists of stuff that is spoon fed to you on the radio.

beach tribe · 01-02-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Dude, go stick your winky in the doorjamb and slam the door several times.

I am sure Casey Kasem never had them on Q104's American Top 40, if that is what you mean.

I do not, and have never listened to top 40s music.

I'm not bashing Queensryche.

Mecca · 01-02-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

OMG I totally forgout about Firehouse........and how can we forget Cinderlla and Britney Fox??????

It's pretty much impossible to avoid that stupid don't know what you got till it's gone song.

**morphius** · 01-02-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It's funny because hair metal is a genre to itself it is not anything like actual metal.

Yup, it was only considered metal by people that considered anything heavier than the Beatles as metal. At the time I considered it hard rock.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-02-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

OMG I totally forgout about Firehouse........and how can we forget Cinderlla and Britney Fox??????

Actually, and you'll just have to take my word for it, Britney Fox was a MUCH better band than Cinderella, and if they had come out first they would have been acknowledged as such.

I hear a couple of their tunes now and again, and if you can get the ridiculous image of them out of your head; it's pretty solid rock and roll.

**petegz28** · 01-02-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Artistic Zenith = Rage For Order.

Greatest Commercial Success = Mindcrime.

Complete ****ing Disappointment = Empire.

I'll disagree and say that Mindcrime was the Zenith. Dude, that whole ****ing album rocked ass. And for it being a concept album at that.....

Let's just say Operation Mindcrime is in a class all by itself and it is WAY the **** up high on the totem of rockability!

**Baby Lee** · 01-02-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I am sure Casey Kasem never had them on Q104's American Top 40, if that is what you mean.

If I have to come out of another upbeat number with a gotdammed death dedication . . . Ponderous, man.

beach tribe · 01-02-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

You are correct. I don't know of any Queensrych's music. Silent Lucidity was a good tune. Other than that, I couldn't point anything of theirs out to you.

Thus the point I was making.

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-02-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Thus my "sell-out" statement.

I hate that argument. Times change. Music styles change. If an artist wants to survive, they need to roll with the changes. I don't fault any band that does that. Isn't the whole premise of a rock star to make and sell music?

**petegz28** · 01-02-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Actually, and you'll just have to take my word for it, Britney Fox was a MUCH better band than Cinderella, and if they had come out first they would have been acknowledged as such.

I hear a couple of their tunes now and again, and if you can get the ridiculous image of them out of your head; it's pretty solid rock and roll.

Dude, the lead singers of both bands sounded the same.....

in my best scream\singing tone...
LONG WAY....LOING WAY TO LO-OVE!!!!

repeat same guitar riff over and over and over and over and over and over and over

phisherman · 01-02-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Thus the point I was making.

so are you saying that the only "good" music is what gets played on the radio?

**petegz28** · 01-02-2009, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

I hate that argument. Times change. Music styles change. If an artist wants to survive, they need to roll with the changes. I don't fault any band that does that. Isn't the whole premise of a rock star to make and sell music?

Yes, music styles change. You can write what sounds good or you can write what sells.

**Baby Lee** · 01-02-2009, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

Isn't the whole premise of a rock star to make and sell music?

That's certainly the whole premise of a sellout.

phisherman · 01-02-2009, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

I hate that argument. Times change. Music styles change. If an artist wants to survive, they need to roll with the changes. I don't fault any band that does that. Isn't the whole premise of a rock star to make and sell music?

newsflash for you, some people truly enjoy making music.

some people will fart into a microphone if someone told them it would sell records.

the former is a musician, the latter is a sellout.

**morphius** · 01-02-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

I was a fan, but I agree. I don't refer to them as metal. I call them Hair bands, or Glam bands.

Yup, I liked a lot of music from that genre, though Poison was always one I just couldn't stand. I took a quick peek at my mp3's sitting on my machine here at work and I think the only hair band music that made it here are GnR and Skid Row.

01-02-2009, 09:18 AM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $1304127	Who made Poison a Rock\Metal icon? Ok, so I am flipping channels the other night and hit "metal mania" on Vh1 right? All the sudden I see this video of Posion doing some song and of course, they look nothing like the bundle of stickss they did in the 80's where they wore more makup than most women. It was a performance they were doing at a party and man they sounded like shit. So then last night during my channel flipping, I see Brett Michaels doing a TV ad for Time\Life Music for rock hits of the 80's or whatever. Once again I am ready to sling the remote at the TV for someone even aknowledging these peter-puffers, let alone making them out to be something they were the exact opposite of. So Brett Michaels puts on a cowboy hat that is rolled up on the sides, takes on the Vince Neil biker look and all the sudden Poison is an icon of the 80's? These are the same bundle of stickss that named themselves "Riki Rachet, Bobbi Dahl, C.C. DeVille"???? The same guys who drew a double take on their album cover because you could not believe a guy would intentionally put on that much makeup and hairspray and not call himself a crossdresser?! What a shame to see what was a good era of music being represented by the same ass-bundle of stickss that brought it down. Someone please, stop this madness!!!!
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