NFL Draft Stafford, Moreno to announce NFL decisions today - Page 6

**the Talking Can** · 01-07-2009, 08:32 AM

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Stafford, Moreno to announce NFL decisions today

By CHIP TOWERS

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Wednesday, January 07, 2009

Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford and tailback Knowshon Moreno will reveal at a 3 p.m. press conference today their decisions whether or not to submit their names for the NFL draft by the January 15 deadline for underclassmen.

“Coach [Mark] Richt, Matthew and Knowshon I believe as well are going to have a press confererence today at 3 o’clock Eastern time,” John Stafford said as he drove from Dallas to Athens early Wednesday morning. “I’m not going to reveal what Matthew’s decision is because it’s his decision and I want him to announce it. He went through the arduous process of trying to figure it out. He’s come to grips with it. So it’s up to him to speak about it.”

Mr. Stafford said his son consulted Kansas City Chiefs scout Mike Hagen, a friend of the family, as well as neighbor Troy Aikman and current NFL quarterbacks Peyton Manning and Jay Cutler about his decision. He also talked to Richt and offensive coordinator Mike Bobo at Georgia.

Richt said earlier this week that he’d talked to both players but wasn’t trying to heavily influence their decisions.

“There’s been some of contact but, again, I don’t want to put any undo pressure on these young men,” Richt said. “I want what’s best for them. They have to figure it out for themselves what that is. All I can say is, if they stay I want their whole heart. I want them to do it because they want to do it. I want them to love the place and believe in what we’re doing, love the people and want to do great things. I want them to want to be part of a great team and a great program. I don’t want a guy who is only half-hearted.

“But I will say this: If Matthew or Knowshon come back it will be because their heart said to. I’m not worried about those guys. If they stay it’s because they love it here and they want to help us win a championship.”

Stafford set a school record with 25 passing touchdowns this past season. He threw for 3,459 yards this past season and has 7,731 yards with 51 TDs and 33 interceptions in three seasons as Georgia’s starting quarterback. He was named MVP of the Capital One Bowl last week with 250 yards and three TDs.

Moreno, a redshirt sophomore, had an even 1,400 yards rushing and 18 TDs this past season. He has 2,734 yards in two seasons as the Bulldogs’ featured tailback.

**the Talking Can** · 01-07-2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Meh, they could have done just as well with Rivers.

nothing but speculation

**the Talking Can** · 01-07-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Please don't tell me you're going to compare the situation the Giants were in in 2003 to the situation the Chiefs were in in 2008.

They had double the talent we have now in KC. They could afford to spend those picks on Manning and hope for the best. They already had a solid core in place.

Kansas City can't afford to give up future high picks to take one player, regardless of position.

of course they can, for QB

it's the most important position by a factor of 1000

this rebuilding is pointless until we find a QB

Brock · 01-07-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

nothing but speculation

What, you dont' think Rivers is more or less equal to Eli Manning? At this point I'd say he is the superior of the two.

Micjones · 01-07-2009, 03:33 PM

Moving up would require us parting with what, our #2 and #3 picks?
Just can't do it. We have too many holes to fill.
Maybe I'd consider it if I already had an extra #2 or #3.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-07-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

of course they can, for QB

it's the most important position by a factor of 1000

this rebuilding is pointless until we find a QB

Bullshit.

You can't just draft a QB and think the rest of the roster will sort out itself.

You're advocating the equivalent of us passing on the opportunity to draft Albert, Flowers and Carr last year, and giving up our Top 5 pick this year as well. (We'll likely have a Top 10 pick next year as well)

You're saying that one core player is more valuable than FOUR.

Sorry, but to a rebuilding team, EVERY piece is important.

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-07-2009, 03:43 PM

Okay now, we need to start a rumor that Matt Stafford kicks puppies for football practice. So he'll slip to us and so Detroit picks an alternate player

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-07-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Moving up would require us parting with what, our #2 and #3 picks?
Just can't do it. We have too many holes to fill.
Maybe I'd consider it if I already had an extra #2 or #3.

At least.

And it's a moot point anyway.

If Detroit wants Stafford, they're not going to trade out of the spot with a team they know is going to take him.

And on the flip side of that, if they DON'T want him, why the **** would we spend a ransom to trade up when our only competition for him doesn't want him?

**the Talking Can** · 01-07-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Bullshit.

You can't just draft a QB and think the rest of the roster will sort out itself.

You're advocating the equivalent of us passing on the opportunity to draft Albert, Flowers and Carr last year, and giving up our Top 5 pick this year as well. (We'll likely have a Top 10 pick next year as well)

You're saying that one core player is more valuable than FOUR.

Sorry, but to a rebuilding team, EVERY piece is important.

if you believe that he is QBOTF, then yes he is more important

it isn't even an argument

KC fans will never admit it though...they've been brainwashed to think it only happens for other teams...

Chiefnj2 · 01-07-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

if you believe that he is QBOTF, then yes he is more important

it isn't even an argument

KC fans will never admit it though...they've been brainwashed to think it only happens for other teams...

The QBOTF will not be a QBOTF very long if you don't build a decent OL and running game. The QBOTF will quickly become a "bust".

Ultra Peanut · 01-07-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

At least.

And it's a moot point anyway.

If Detroit wants Stafford, they're not going to trade out of the spot with a team they know is going to take him.

And on the flip side of that, if they DON'T want him, why the **** would we spend a ransom to trade up when our only competition for him doesn't want him?

this post

Micjones · 01-07-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

At least.

And it's a moot point anyway.

If Detroit wants Stafford, they're not going to trade out of the spot with a team they know is going to take him.

And on the flip side of that, if they DON'T want him, why the **** would we spend a ransom to trade up when our only competition for him doesn't want him?

Well... It's not exactly like they're going to tell us whether or not they really want him.

Pretending to want him would net them a shot at another QB whose highly touted plus an extra #2 & #3. I'd PRETEND to want him.

For the record, I'm not advocating this strategy.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-07-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

if you believe that he is QBOTF, then yes he is more important

it isn't even an argument

KC fans will never admit it though...they've been brainwashed to think it only happens for other teams...

Uh, it IS an argument.

It's only happened twice in recent memory, one time it worked (Manning/Rivers) one time it didn't. (Vick)

Most, if not ALL teams are going to shy away from making that deal.

It worked for the Giants because they had a huge part of their core already in house, and as pointed out earlier, any of the three QB's in 2004 could have won with that defense. (Much like Roethlisberger did in 2005)

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-07-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I think we're on the same page.

I'm not saying it COULDN'T happen - as you pointed out, it's been done before.

I'm just hoping the new GM values his draft picks more than to give up 3-4 high picks to draft ONE player.

I was speaking in generalities. Not specific to the Chiefs.

The Chiefs have far too many needs. The compensation would set the franchise back at least a year.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-07-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Well... It's not exactly like they're going to tell us whether or not they really want him.

Pretending to want him would net them a shot at another QB whose highly touted plus an extra #2 & #3. I'd PRETEND to want him.

For the record, I'm not advocating this strategy.

No, but word travels.

If on Draft Day 2009, we don't know what direction Detroit is going, then the organization didn't do their job, IMO.

Micjones · 01-07-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

No, but word travels.

If on Draft Day 2009, we don't know what direction Detroit is going, then the organization didn't do their job, IMO.

I agree with that.
Besides... If they really want him he'll be signed before Draft Day anyway.

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