Lets talk BBQ

[rambleonthruthefog]

What i've been thinkin bout is.... other than location. what makes it Texas BBQ, or KC BBQ, or Memphis BBQ, or Carolina BBQ, etc.

I've spent most my life in TX, eatin' all my BBQ in TX, with the exception of two places. I've had plenty of good, and some great. I've always judged the BBQ here by and large by the chopped beef sandwich. if your sauce and chopped beef aren't delicious together, most likely i don't want any ribs or chicken. The other two BBQ joints i ate at were...

Arthur Bryants in KC. was there for my pilgrimage to Arrowhead
and a place called Corky's in Memphis. Was there for a Widespread Panic show.

I had some chopped beef at both joints and was not overly impressed, but the sausage sandwich i had at Arthurs was out of d*mn sight, it was hot, it was sliced nice and thin, and stacked high. it was great. prob the best sausage sandwich i've ever had. At corky's the ribs i had were great, i mean really really good. i didn't finish my chopped beef sandwich, but i did ask for some ribs to go. These two experiences blew my theory away.

i still think that the chopped beef makes or breaks you in TX, and most TX joints usually have some version of habanero sauce, or jalepeno sausage, and they all got pickles and onions, and most have banana pudding(preferably with nilla wafers), amd beans.

what makes it KC, Memphis, or Carolina BBQ?

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by xbarretx

ill take flaming for this but there's two answers depending on my mood IMHO.

quality meat and smooth flavor = Jack Stack

Old School BBQ with some bite = Gates

Interesting. The Jack Stack ends were dismissed earlier in the thread...

Strong difference of opinion here.

[xbarretx]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

I can't even get a good steak up in this bitch much less BBQ. ****in' Arizona desert rats!

I guess they "forged the west" on a diet of Crow and Prairie Dog, 'cause every piece of meat they cook all these years later tastes just about as "great".

LOL that reminds me of that scene in demolition man when they go in the sewers and eat the rat burger ..

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by xbarretx

ill take flaming for this but there's two answers depending on my mood IMHO.

quality meat and smooth flavor = Jack Stack

Old School BBQ with some bite = Gates

Yep, I'm a Gates man. I like having to work a little bit when I chew my brisket.
A lot of the older set like that really super moist brisket swimming in a dark and sweet sauce, but I like more smoke flavor and firmness.

[xbarretx]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Interesting. The Jack Stack ends were dismissed earlier in the thread...

Strong difference of opinion here.

that's why i noted smooth flavor. they could be called somewhat middle of the road as there not overly smoky, the sauce is kinda sweet and its not very vinegary. i think the only two places ive ever vowed never ot have there BE's ever again was Zarda and Arther Bryant's... both tasted like a chunky version of dry sloppy joes...

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by xbarretx

*found this online, and its a decent response*
The meat of choice is pork (Carolina, Memphis and KC) and beef (Texas).

1) Carolina BBQ - is typically pulled (shredded) pork shoulder with a vinegary sauce. Also, the pulled pork sandwich is topped with cole slaw. (very good!)

2) Memphis BBQ - is typically pork spare ribs cut St. Louis style cooked with a dry rub. Depending upon who you ask, some say the ribs should be served dry (no sauce) while others like them wet.

3) Kansas City BBQ - is mainly about the sauce (For example, KC Masterpiece). The sauce is tomato based and tends to be on the sweet side.

4) Texas BBQ - becuase of it's cattle history, Beef is the choice of meat. More specifically, Beef Brisket. The brisket is coated with a dry rub before bbq'ing. Again, some people like it dry others like it wet.

Get the **** out.

[xbarretx]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Get the **** out.

LOL thats why i said i found it online

FTR, i figured anyone who knew about BBQ would simply ignore the KC masterpiece like it was the pink elephant in the room.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by xbarretx

that's why i noted smooth flavor. they could be called somewhat middle of the road as there not overly smoky, the sauce is kinda sweet and its not very vinegary. i think the only two places ive ever vowed never ot have there BE's ever again was Zarda and Arther Bryant's... both tasted like a chunky version of dry sloppy joes...

I hear you. Bryant's doesn't impress me, either. Their sauce, however, is my favorite.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Best burnt ends in the KC area can be found at what establishment?

1.) L.C.'s (as long as they don't "tourist" you. They run low everyday and save the real ends for regulars).

2.) Smokin' Guns

3.) Woodyard

But ya'll wouldn't know about that #2 & #3 shit, since all the talk is about the hugely popular places (Bryant's, Gates, Jack Stack, Smokestack) that aren't worth much of a shit comparatively.

4.) Oklahoma Joe's (only available on Wed. nights)

5.) Snead's

[xbarretx]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I hear you. Bryant's doesn't impress me, either. Their sauce, however, is my favorite.

its one that i just havent had enough to get use to. anytime i ask about it, im always told its an acquired taste the sauce i mean

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Get the **** out.

No shit. I ****ing cringe every time I go grocery shopping out here and see that shit on the shelves. During the summer season, a lot of people are cooking. And when I meander through the sauce aisle and see someone picking up different bottles and eyeing them, I inform them of my background, inform them that "KC Disasterpiece" is NOT Kansas City personified, and promptly introduce them to Stubbs, as it's the only real-deal we have on the shelves out here.

[xbarretx]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

1.) L.C.'s (as long as they don't "tourist" you. They run low everyday and save the real ends for regulars).

2.) Smokin' Guns

3.) Woodyard

But ya'll wouldn't know about that #2 & #3 shit, since all the talk is about the hugely popular places (Bryant's, Gates, Jack Stack, Smokestack) that aren't worth much of a shit comparatively.

4.) Oklahoma Joe's (only available on Wed. nights)

5.) Snead's

its not just about mainstream. that's why i noted small hole in the wall joints that aren't well known. no point in mentioning a place that an out of towner couldn't find

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

1.) L.C.'s (as long as they don't "tourist" you. They run low everyday and save the real ends for regulars).

2.) Smokin' Guns

3.) Woodyard

But ya'll wouldn't know about that #2 & #3 shit, since all the talk is about the hugely popular places (Bryant's, Gates, Jack Stack, Smokestack) that aren't worth much of a shit comparatively.

4.) Oklahoma Joe's (only available on Wed. nights)

5.) Snead's

Nice. I haven't had anything from 1-3, so I this will be corrected soon.

[xbarretx]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

No shit. I ****ing cringe every time I go grocery shopping out here and see that shit on the shelves. During the summer season, a lot of people are cooking. And when I meander through the sauce aisle and see someone picking up different bottles and eyeing them, I inform them of my background, inform them that "KC Disasterpiece" is NOT Kansas City personified, and promptly introduce them to Stubbs, as it's the only real-deal we have on the shelves out here.

stubbs is a GREAT marinade

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by xbarretx

its one that i just havent had enough to get use to. anytime i ask about it, im always told its an acquired taste the sauce i mean

It's the goods, particularly on ribs.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

1.) L.C.'s (as long as they don't "tourist" you. They run low everyday and save the real ends for regulars).

2.) Smokin' Guns

3.) Woodyard

But ya'll wouldn't know about that #2 & #3 shit, since all the talk is about the hugely popular places (Bryant's, Gates, Jack Stack, Smokestack) that aren't worth much of a shit comparatively.

4.) Oklahoma Joe's (only available on Wed. nights)

5.) Snead's

#2 and #3 weren't in existence when last I lived in KC. I might have seen something for Smokin' Guns when they first started though. It's been a while.