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**Iowanian** · 03-09-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

Don't mind DCS....His ancestors originated from the highlands of dumbf@ckistan.

**Skip Towne** · 03-09-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Amno, meet DCS.

DCS = Dumb Cock Sucker

**banyon** · 03-09-2009, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

He was charged as a juvenile. He'll be out by 18. Heeeeeeey, don't pay no mind. If you're under 18 you won't be doing any tiiiiime. Heeeeeeeey, come out and play.

Yes, and the sadder part is he probably can't be charged with much other than Battery which is just a misdemeanor usually if a weapon or great bodily harm isn't involved.

In Kansas, the juvenile code gives us these wonderful choices:

38-2361: Sentencing alternatives. (a) Upon adjudication as a juvenile offender pursuant to K.S.A. 2007 Supp. 38-2356, and amendments thereto, modification of sentence pursuant to K.S.A. 2007 Supp. 38-2367, and amendments thereto, or violation of a condition of sentence pursuant to K.S.A. 2007 Supp. 38-2368, and amendments thereto, and subject to subsection (a) of K.S.A. 2007 Supp. 38-2365, and amendments thereto, the court may impose one or more of the following sentencing alternatives. In the event that any sentencing alternative chosen constitutes an order authorizing or requiring removal of the juvenile from the juvenile's home and such findings either have not previously been made or the findings are not or may no longer be current, the court shall make determinations as required by K.S.A. 2007 Supp. 38-2334 and 38-2335, and amendments thereto.

(1) Place the juvenile on probation through court services or community corrections for a fixed period, subject to terms and conditions the court deems appropriate consistent with juvenile justice programs in the community.

(2) Order the juvenile to participate in a community based program available in such judicial district subject to the terms and conditions the court deems appropriate. This alternative shall not be ordered with the alternative in paragraph (12) and when ordered with the alternative in paragraph (10) shall constitute a recommendation. Requirements pertaining to child support may apply if custody is vested with other than a parent.

(3) Place the juvenile in the custody of a parent or other suitable person, subject to terms and conditions consistent with juvenile justice programs in the community. This alternative shall not be ordered with the alternative in paragraph (10) or (12). Requirements pertaining to child support may apply if custody is vested with other than a parent.

(4) Order the juvenile to attend counseling, educational, mediation or other sessions, or to undergo a drug evaluation pursuant to subsection (b).

(5) Suspend or restrict the juvenile's driver's license or privilege to operate a motor vehicle on the streets and highways of this state pursuant to subsection (c).

(6) Order the juvenile to perform charitable or community service work.

(7) Order the juvenile to make appropriate reparation or restitution pursuant to subsection (d).

(8) Order the juvenile to pay a fine not exceeding $1,000 pursuant to subsection (e).

(9) Place the juvenile under a house arrest program administered by the court pursuant to K.S.A. 21-4603b, and amendments thereto.

(10) Place the juvenile in the custody of the commissioner as provided in K.S.A. 2007 Supp. 38-2365, and amendments thereto. This alternative shall not be ordered with the alternative in paragraph (3) or (12). Except for a mandatory drug and alcohol evaluation, when this alternative is ordered with alternatives in paragraphs (2), (4) and (9), such orders shall constitute a recommendation by the court. Requirements pertaining to child support shall apply under this alternative.

(11) Commit the juvenile to a sanctions house for a period no longer than 28 days subject to the provisions of subsection (f).

(12) Commit the juvenile directly to the custody of the commissioner for a period of confinement in a juvenile correctional facility and a period of aftercare pursuant to K.S.A. 2007 Supp. 38-2369, and amendments thereto. The provisions of K.S.A. 2007 Supp. 38-2365, and amendments thereto, shall not apply to juveniles committed pursuant to this provision. This alternative may be ordered with the alternative in paragraph (7). Requirements pertaining to child support shall apply under this alternative.

**doomy3** · 03-09-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

DCS = Dumb Cock Sucker

This.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 03-09-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by banyon

Yes, and the sadder part is he probably can't be charged with much other than Battery which is just a misdemeanor usually if a weapon or great bodily harm isn't involved.

In Kansas, the juvenile code gives us these wonderful choices:

38-2361: Sentencing alternatives. (a) Upon adjudication as a juvenile offender pursuant to K.S.A. 2007 Supp. 38-2356, and amendments thereto, modification of sentence pursuant to K.S.A. 2007 Supp. 38-2367, and amendments thereto, or violation of a condition of sentence pursuant to K.S.A. 2007 Supp. 38-2368, and amendments thereto, and subject to subsection (a) of K.S.A. 2007 Supp. 38-2365, and amendments thereto, the court may impose one or more of the following sentencing alternatives. In the event that any sentencing alternative chosen constitutes an order authorizing or requiring removal of the juvenile from the juvenile's home and such findings either have not previously been made or the findings are not or may no longer be current, the court shall make determinations as required by K.S.A. 2007 Supp. 38-2334 and 38-2335, and amendments thereto.

(1) Place the juvenile on probation through court services or community corrections for a fixed period, subject to terms and conditions the court deems appropriate consistent with juvenile justice programs in the community.

(2) Order the juvenile to participate in a community based program available in such judicial district subject to the terms and conditions the court deems appropriate. This alternative shall not be ordered with the alternative in paragraph (12) and when ordered with the alternative in paragraph (10) shall constitute a recommendation. Requirements pertaining to child support may apply if custody is vested with other than a parent.

(3) Place the juvenile in the custody of a parent or other suitable person, subject to terms and conditions consistent with juvenile justice programs in the community. This alternative shall not be ordered with the alternative in paragraph (10) or (12). Requirements pertaining to child support may apply if custody is vested with other than a parent.

(4) Order the juvenile to attend counseling, educational, mediation or other sessions, or to undergo a drug evaluation pursuant to subsection (b).

(5) Suspend or restrict the juvenile's driver's license or privilege to operate a motor vehicle on the streets and highways of this state pursuant to subsection (c).

(6) Order the juvenile to perform charitable or community service work.

(7) Order the juvenile to make appropriate reparation or restitution pursuant to subsection (d).

(8) Order the juvenile to pay a fine not exceeding $1,000 pursuant to subsection (e).

(9) Place the juvenile under a house arrest program administered by the court pursuant to K.S.A. 21-4603b, and amendments thereto.

(10) Place the juvenile in the custody of the commissioner as provided in K.S.A. 2007 Supp. 38-2365, and amendments thereto. This alternative shall not be ordered with the alternative in paragraph (3) or (12). Except for a mandatory drug and alcohol evaluation, when this alternative is ordered with alternatives in paragraphs (2), (4) and (9), such orders shall constitute a recommendation by the court. Requirements pertaining to child support shall apply under this alternative.

(11) Commit the juvenile to a sanctions house for a period no longer than 28 days subject to the provisions of subsection (f).

(12) Commit the juvenile directly to the custody of the commissioner for a period of confinement in a juvenile correctional facility and a period of aftercare pursuant to K.S.A. 2007 Supp. 38-2369, and amendments thereto. The provisions of K.S.A. 2007 Supp. 38-2365, and amendments thereto, shall not apply to juveniles committed pursuant to this provision. This alternative may be ordered with the alternative in paragraph (7). Requirements pertaining to child support shall apply under this alternative.

If this kid has no record he won't serve 1 day in jail. Unbelievable.

**DeezNutz** · 03-09-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by banyon

Yes, and the sadder part is he probably can't be charged with much other than Battery which is just a misdemeanor usually if a weapon or great bodily harm isn't involved.

In Kansas, the juvenile code gives us these wonderful choices:

Banyon, would it be possible to argue that the kid's intent was to do "great bodily harm"? He got after that woman pretty viciously.

Quite a travesty if he escapes with essentially a hand slap.

In that case, however, I'd recommend that Bwana apply the slap.

**banyon** · 03-09-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

If this kid has no record he won't serve 1 day in jail. Unbelievable.

Correct. Ridiculous isn't it?

Locally here, the gangs know that these rules are pathetic, so the shot callers sit at home and send out the 15-17 year olds to actually commit the worst offenses.

**banyon** · 03-09-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Banyon, would it be possible to argue that the kid's intent was to do "great bodily harm"? He got after that woman pretty viciously.

Quite a travesty if he escapes with essentially a hand slap.

In that case, however, I'd recommend that Bwana apply the slap.

It's not just intent, he actually has to commit the act of actually inflicting the great bodily harm as well.

And even then, it's typically with a deadly weapon. There's a KS supreme court case debating whether or not a "through and through" bullet wound is "great bodily harm". So the standard is pretty high.

Just to give you an example of the difference, if we were talking adults here,

a misdemeanor battery is punishable by a maximum 6 months in the county jail. Aggravated Battery is 11 to 172 months in prison.

**DeezNutz** · 03-09-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by banyon

It's not just intent, he actually has to commit the act of actually inflicting the great bodily harm as well.

And even then, it's typically with a deadly weapon. There's a KS supreme court case debating whether or not a "through and through" bullet wound is "great bodily harm". So the standard is pretty high.

Just to give you an example of the difference, if we were talking adults here,

a misdemeanor battery is punishable by a maximum 6 months in the county jail. Aggravated Battery is 11 to 172 months in prison.

It sucks when our laws and common sense don't align.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 03-09-2009, 10:34 PM

So ****ing gross.

**Skip Towne** · 03-09-2009, 10:57 PM

The police should assemble a squad of 15-17 year olds to deal out justice to these punks. I once paid a 17 year old $100 to inflict great bodily harm on a punk who was on my lawn.

LiL stumppy · 03-09-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TinyEvel

I blame the MTV.

Used to be it was a network that showed videos. Nice ones, too. Stuff like Van Halen's Right Now, and The Safety Dance, and a band called Oingo Boingo that Danny Elfman used to run before he did movie soundtracks.

It was a nice time...watching the VeeJays announce the videos in the morning before school while you ate your Cream of Wheat with a dab of brown sugar.

Nowadays it's a whole different thing on the MTV. There are no music videos. There are only shows with teenage kids acting like asshats. They have shows like Elimidate or NEXT. Basically shows where a girl tries to fend off several guys at once who are trying to bone her, and then she ends up giving one of them aBJ in a jacuzzi or a car or something like that.
Used to be kids acted like that and it was confined to an alley or a vacant lot or a motorhome in some redneck's driveway. Now that behavior is on the Cable TV for unsupervised kids all over the country to see. Those kids then say to themselves "Hey! I can act like a total shitwad and it will be OK. I might even get on TV!"
MTV had a moral obligation in the 90's to be a positive influence on kids. What happened to Rock the Vote and Amnesty NOW and all those unplugged shows teaching acoustic music?

They've been replaced by a bunch of exploited kids. MTV is no longer a network. It might as well be considered the most commercially successful pimp of teen prostitutes this country has ever seen.

What makes you think kids that live in an area like that can afford cable?

No one watches MTV any more. The only thing you blame is the kids parents, that's it.

Discuss Thrower · 03-10-2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

The police should assemble a squad of 15-17 year olds to deal out justice to these punks. I once paid a 17 year old $100 to inflict great bodily harm on a punk who was on my lawn.

Small town Mafioso. Baller status.

MadMax · 03-10-2009, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

The police should assemble a squad of 15-17 year olds to deal out justice to these punks. I once paid a 17 year old $100 to inflict great bodily harm on a punk who was on my lawn.

THIS!!! I agree but damn can't ya get it down to like 20 or sumpin know what I mean

MadMax · 03-10-2009, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

I hope that little Bastard gets sentenced to a lifetime of livestock masturbation!!!!

Why? Then he would become you. Maybe you could teach him animal torture, ya know be a real Svengali or mentor.

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