Chiefs Why you should be scared... - Page 6

jwhit · 11-08-2009, 05:01 PM

Pioli and Haley thought this team would be competitive. They thought we had a shot at winning eight games.

Everyone wants to talk about how bad the roster is and how we have to cut them slack because they're digging out from Peterson and Herm's mess. This is no different from the last Chiefs team. Peterson and Herm thought that roster was capable of being competitive. They thought we could win six or seven with last year's roster.

Pioli and Haley thought we could win eight or more with what they've put out there.

Do they know what it takes to win football games? It takes players. Not signs or media policies or Pentagon-like security or secrets or cursing at the players. Players win football games.

22 guys off the street could win two games. We're halfway home and the Chiefs have one victory.

RustShack · 11-08-2009, 06:06 PM

Bring on Weis and Crennel!

**DeezNutz** · 11-08-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Bring on Weis and Crennel!

****. That.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 11-08-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

What did you expect? A playoff victory? Seriously, WTF? /CP/

LOL I'm hoping something, anything in that post was quotable. Then he can come back and tell us all the story of the day he tried to slip "Mr. Flopnuts" past the editors at the Star.

Mecca · 11-08-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

He was trade though and so was Welker

I am still holding out hope for Haley. He has struggled this year but it is his first year so I am going to cut him some slack. I can tell he has calmed down alot and is not yelling nearing as much.

The main point is the Chiefs don't have the type of cash to spend the east coast teams do...

The Chiefs don't compete for premier FA's.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-08-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Haley's hiring was a head scratcher. Hiring a bunch of fired defensive coordinators to come coach the defense was a head scratcher.

I dont think Haley's hire was a head scratcher. As far as assistants go, since Haley was such a late hire, they were limited in their options. I still think they wanted Crennel as DC but he wasnt ready to come back. Remember how long it took for them to decide who was DC?

booger · 11-08-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Their moves spoke that they thought they would be this years Dolphins.

BS

and you're the one accusing others of exagerating.
Priceless.

tk13 · 11-08-2009, 06:09 PM

The only thing we should be scared of, is whether these guys adjust and learn from the mistakes they've made.

That's the real test, especially for Haley. We knew they were going to make mistakes. And I think they've made more mistakes than even they expected. But... they will have the chance to be active and fix some of the mistakes they've made. I don't care about egos or signs or any of that crap. It's whether they show that they can learn from their mistakes, and we aren't going to find that out until the offseason.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 11-08-2009, 06:09 PM

Oh, and let's not forget perhaps the biggest head scratching decision of all, firing the offensive ****ing coordinator a week before the regular season started. Talk about throwing it away before it ever begins................

Mr. Plow · 11-08-2009, 06:11 PM

Is Whitlock taking the place of GoChiefs?

KCUnited · 11-08-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Is Whitlock taking the place of Assclown?

FYP. With his insider info and shit. Assclown.

RustShack · 11-08-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

****. That.

Not calling you out, but I am curious who you guys see as OC candidates for next year?

Mecca · 11-08-2009, 06:14 PM

When you make moves like Matt Cassel/Mike Vrabel etc etc you're saying you think you can win 6 or 7 games.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-08-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Todd Haley has taken the Chiefs best offensive player and cut his production in half so someone like Lance Long can get double digit targets, what in the **** is that?

I dont know why Bowe is not getting looks. Probably has a lot to do with TG not being here. I cant blame that on Haley unless he is explicitly telling Cassel NOT to throw to Bowe

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 11-08-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

I dont think Haley's hire was a head scratcher. As far as assistants go, since Haley was such a late hire, they were limited in their options. I still think they wanted Crennel as DC but he wasnt ready to come back. Remember how long it took for them to decide who was DC?

There were a lot of established Super Bowl caliber coaches out there. Even if they tried, it seems like Haley was an O coordinator for like a year, maybe 2. Jason Garrett was a big name floating around for a minute, who'd hire him now? Haley just wasn't established enough at offensive coordinator IMO.

He's got a Super Bowl MVP QB and 2 of the best runners in the game. Throw in Edgerrin James and unless your line is an abomination you're going to win some games. But they didn't. They got hot in the playoffs and became America's darlings.

I'm sure they couldn't get Crennel, and I'm sure they tried, but when you have a pool of 4 guys that just got fired that year for the position you need to fill, I'd think long and hard about it too.

I don't hate these guys, and I honestly think they'll succeed. But when? I don't see how it had to take as long as it's starting to look like it's going to take. Nobody expected this year, but in today's NFL 2-3 years should work regardless of what's on your roster today.

Mecca · 11-08-2009, 06:17 PM

You know what I find odd?

Bowe seems to never be the first look until the Chiefs are in the no huddle where Cassel is making the call....ponder why that is.

11-08-2009, 05:01 PM
jwhit Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Casino cash: $9994990	Why you should be scared... Pioli and Haley thought this team would be competitive. They thought we had a shot at winning eight games. Everyone wants to talk about how bad the roster is and how we have to cut them slack because they're digging out from Peterson and Herm's mess. This is no different from the last Chiefs team. Peterson and Herm thought that roster was capable of being competitive. They thought we could win six or seven with last year's roster. Pioli and Haley thought we could win eight or more with what they've put out there. Do they know what it takes to win football games? It takes players. Not signs or media policies or Pentagon-like security or secrets or cursing at the players. Players win football games. 22 guys off the street could win two games. We're halfway home and the Chiefs have one victory.
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1677500	The only thing we should be scared of, is whether these guys adjust and learn from the mistakes they've made. That's the real test, especially for Haley. We knew they were going to make mistakes. And I think they've made more mistakes than even they expected. But... they will have the chance to be active and fix some of the mistakes they've made. I don't care about egos or signs or any of that crap. It's whether they show that they can learn from their mistakes, and we aren't going to find that out until the offseason.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-502950	When you make moves like Matt Cassel/Mike Vrabel etc etc you're saying you think you can win 6 or 7 games.
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11-08-2009, 06:17 PM	#90
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-502950	You know what I find odd? Bowe seems to never be the first look until the Chiefs are in the no huddle where Cassel is making the call....ponder why that is.
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