Chiefs Colin Brown - Page 6

angelo · 05-05-2010, 01:27 PM

My friends kid (12 years old 5'11 270)attends Will Shields Kids academy.

He has witnessed on many occasions Colin Brown working out one on one with Will Shields.

He looks like he has lost weight and is in much better shape. He said his footwork looked great.

I hope this is a good sign.

Ang

RustShack · 05-05-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'm not saying you're incorrect but I believe it would be monumentally stupid to burn two draft picks in consecutive years on a right guard.

Monumentally stupid.

its pretty common for 5th round picks not to make the team. Especially in poor drafts. They also probably didn't expect someone like Aso to fall to the third. I wonder if Harris can play C? If Lilja couldn't. I wouldn't mind Albert-Asomah-Harris-Brown-Richardson

RustShack · 05-05-2010, 07:25 PM

Brown is pretty tall for a guard though. They could have drafted him in hopes of him being the RT of the future and already knowing they failed try him at RG but he got hurt and a player too good to pass up fell to them.

booger · 05-05-2010, 07:34 PM

its gonna be a fun spot to keep an eye on in TC. Gretz had a q/a after the draft and based on some questions he answered from readers he seems to think it is possibly Lilja's knees won't hold up, so he's heard of those whispers out there like some on this board mentioned. He also thinks Rudy beats out Weigmann for the starting spot at C. I don't know if his reasoning is Casey's age or the fact that Haley and Pioli like Rudy's toughness coming back and playing so soon from his MCL injury.

I think it won't work in the long run but i think they will look at Brown and Ndukwe at RT some. Richardson is better at LT than RT but they can get by if he has to finish a game if they only have 3 active T's on gameday. They can only keep so many guys who lack a second position versatility and that doesn't bode well for Ndukwe( i think he is a natural RG) and Richardson.

I also think there's a chance they have Harris pegged as the guy to groom at C for the future. Or maybe short term in the Wade smith spot as a backup to the 3 inside spots. Which would be Niswanger's spot if Weigmann starts. Weigmann and/or Lilja likely get cut if they don't start, also assuming the youngens in those spots show enough to let the vets go. Probably gonna have to rely and try and get another year out of Waters.

This OL competition is going to be interesting to see how it turns out.

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-05-2010, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack

Brown is pretty tall for a guard though. They could have drafted him in hopes of him being the RT of the future and already knowing they failed try him at RG but he got hurt and a player too good to pass up fell to them.

No ****ing way. If so, Pioli's a ****ing idiot.

You DO NOT spend a high third round pick, a high fifth round pick, a sixth round pick AND money in free agency on the same GODDAMN GUARD POSITION!

Doing so would be so ****ing incredibly stupid that I can't even imagine ANY GM making that type of decision.

There are scouting reports all over the ****ing internet saying that Asamoah projects at LEFT GUARD. We already know that Lilja will be a right tackle, so it'll be between Brown, Nsukwe & Lilja as to who starts at RIGHT guard.

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-05-2010, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack

Brown is pretty tall for a guard though. They could have drafted him in hopes of him being the RT of the future and already knowing they failed try him at RG but he got hurt and a player too good to pass up fell to them.

Clearly, you failed to watch him during preseason last year.

But if you did, you don't have a clue as how to grade offensive lineman.

RustShack · 05-05-2010, 07:47 PM

Brown was just a wasted pick that Pioli made in a bad draft with out his own scouting department. If he wanted a starting guard he would have drafted Duke Robinson among a few others better than Brown. Actually probably more than a few.

RustShack · 05-05-2010, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Clearly, you failed to watch him during preseason last year.

But if you did, you don't have a clue as how to grade offensive lineman.

Yeah, he was so good we drafted Asamoah. A lot of guys look great in Pre Season who don't make rosters.

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-05-2010, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by booger

its gonna be a fun spot to keep an eye on in TC. Gretz had a q/a after the draft and based on some questions he answered from readers he seems to think it is possibly Lilja's knees won't hold up, so he's heard of those whispers out there like some on this board mentioned. He also thinks Rudy beats out Weigmann for the starting spot at C. I don't know if his reasoning is Casey's age or the fact that Haley and Pioli like Rudy's toughness coming back and playing so soon from his MCL injury.

I think it won't work in the long run but i think they will look at Brown and Ndukwe at RT some. Richardson is better at LT than RT but they can get by if he has to finish a game if they only have 3 active T's on gameday. They can only keep so many guys who lack a second position versatility and that doesn't bode well for Ndukwe( i think he is a natural RG) and Richardson.

I also think there's a chance they have Harris pegged as the guy to groom at C for the future. Or maybe short term in the Wade smith spot as a backup to the 3 inside spots. Which would be Niswanger's spot if Weigmann starts. Weigmann and/or Lilja likely get cut if they don't start, also assuming the youngens in those spots show enough to let the vets go. Probably gonna have to rely and try and get another year out of Waters.

This OL competition is going to be interesting to see how it turns out.

I cannot imagine a scenario at this point in time that doesn't have Albert, Weigman and O'Callaghan as starters.

The only two jobs up for grabs, IMO, are right and left guard. Pioli stated in his pre-draft press conference that he like O'Callaghan at right tackle and thought he improved over the course of the season.

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-05-2010, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Yeah, he was so good we drafted Asamoah. A lot of guys look great in Pre Season who don't make rosters.

Dude, Asamoah will be a left guard. He can play all three interior spots, including center.

Again, spending THREE draft picks in consecutive years on the right guard position would be MONUMENTALLY STUPID.

Way to avoid answering the question.

RustShack · 05-05-2010, 08:00 PM

Ohs noes Pioli drafted a backup in the 5th round in a poor draft year with out his own scouting department! Fire him!

Come talk to me the day Brown becomes a starter.

RustShack · 05-05-2010, 08:13 PM

Thats like saying we shouldn't draft Berry because we have Page and Morgan. We shouldn't draft Lewis because we have Berry. We shouldn't draft Arenas because we have Washington. We shouldn't draft Clausen because we have Cassel. Sippio looked great in PS too that doesn't mean anything. Everyone was on me all last year because I said Brown wasn't the RT of the future.. now look at how thats changed.

milkman · 05-05-2010, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Thats like saying we shouldn't draft Berry because we have Page and Morgan. We shouldn't draft Lewis because we have Berry. We shouldn't draft Arenas because we have Washington. We shouldn't draft Clausen because we have Cassel. Sippio looked great in PS too that doesn't mean anything. Everyone was on me all last year because I said Brown wasn't the RT of the future.. now look at how thats changed.

And no one is saying that Brown is the RT of the future now.

He showed great promise at guard.

Get it dumb****?

Guard.

RustShack · 05-05-2010, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

And no one is saying that Brown is the RT of the future now.

He showed great promise at guard.

Get it dumb****?

Guard.

You may have been missing my point dumb****. The point was last year everyone was arguing with me saying he was the RT of the future when I was saying he was a backup guard. Now they are trying to argue hes the RG of the future. Got it dumb****? Hes still a backup guard. We had shit infront of him last year, and he was our 5th string RG in training camp. Damn hes good.

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-05-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

And no one is saying that Brown is the RT of the future now.

He showed great promise at guard.

Get it dumb****?

Guard.

It's pointless to argue with someone that has absolutely no clue.

While I may not be happy with many of Pioli's decisions, I can't imagine for even one second that he'd spend three draft picks on a ****ing right guard, but ignore other areas of need.

It doesn't make a damn bit of sense.

milkman · 05-05-2010, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack

You may have been missing my point dumb****. The point was last year everyone was arguing with me saying he was the RT of the future when I was saying he was a backup guard. Now they are trying to argue hes the RG of the future. Got it dumb****? Hes still a backup guard. We had shit infront of him last year, and he was our 5th string RG in training camp. Damn hes good.

And my point, dumbass, is that I said teh same damn thing you did, that he would never play a down at RT in the NFL.

But as a project RG, he showed potential, and you simply on't quit on that potential after one preseason,a nd the fact that he went on the IR with some mysterious injury that popped up after the last preseason game tells us that the coaches saw the same thing.

Got it dumb****?

05-05-2010, 01:27 PM
angelo Starter Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $9944965	Colin Brown My friends kid (12 years old 5'11 270)attends Will Shields Kids academy. He has witnessed on many occasions Colin Brown working out one on one with Will Shields. He looks like he has lost weight and is in much better shape. He said his footwork looked great. I hope this is a good sign. Ang
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RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $4546954	Brown is pretty tall for a guard though. They could have drafted him in hopes of him being the RT of the future and already knowing they failed try him at RG but he got hurt and a player too good to pass up fell to them. __________________
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05-05-2010, 07:34 PM	#78
booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $968550	its gonna be a fun spot to keep an eye on in TC. Gretz had a q/a after the draft and based on some questions he answered from readers he seems to think it is possibly Lilja's knees won't hold up, so he's heard of those whispers out there like some on this board mentioned. He also thinks Rudy beats out Weigmann for the starting spot at C. I don't know if his reasoning is Casey's age or the fact that Haley and Pioli like Rudy's toughness coming back and playing so soon from his MCL injury. I think it won't work in the long run but i think they will look at Brown and Ndukwe at RT some. Richardson is better at LT than RT but they can get by if he has to finish a game if they only have 3 active T's on gameday. They can only keep so many guys who lack a second position versatility and that doesn't bode well for Ndukwe( i think he is a natural RG) and Richardson. I also think there's a chance they have Harris pegged as the guy to groom at C for the future. Or maybe short term in the Wade smith spot as a backup to the 3 inside spots. Which would be Niswanger's spot if Weigmann starts. Weigmann and/or Lilja likely get cut if they don't start, also assuming the youngens in those spots show enough to let the vets go. Probably gonna have to rely and try and get another year out of Waters. This OL competition is going to be interesting to see how it turns out. __________________ 2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
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05-05-2010, 07:47 PM	#81
RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $4546954	Brown was just a wasted pick that Pioli made in a bad draft with out his own scouting department. If he wanted a starting guard he would have drafted Duke Robinson among a few others better than Brown. Actually probably more than a few. __________________
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05-05-2010, 08:00 PM	#85
RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $4546954	Ohs noes Pioli drafted a backup in the 5th round in a poor draft year with out his own scouting department! Fire him! Come talk to me the day Brown becomes a starter. __________________
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05-05-2010, 08:13 PM	#86
RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $4546954	Thats like saying we shouldn't draft Berry because we have Page and Morgan. We shouldn't draft Lewis because we have Berry. We shouldn't draft Arenas because we have Washington. We shouldn't draft Clausen because we have Cassel. Sippio looked great in PS too that doesn't mean anything. Everyone was on me all last year because I said Brown wasn't the RT of the future.. now look at how thats changed. __________________
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