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Old 12-18-2011, 03:07 PM  
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Would the Chiefs have won this game with Haley?
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:26 PM   #76
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Did STs **** up this much under Haley
shit can be played 50 different ways
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:27 PM   #77
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He was a waste of three years. We knew pretty early on he was not going to be the type of coach this organization wanted and needed. He managed to delay the inevitable for a year but in the end all he amounted to was a big freakin waste of time. We were on the freakin job training for him.

Actually, if you go back to my posts at the time, I was opposed to hiring a rookie in the first place. That is on Pioli.
In the end, Im thinking this was the right firing to make. But I do NOT think thats a knock on Haley. Unfortunately, this was a wake up call to pioli to grow the **** up. We also run the danger of pioli getting his ego back if we win the next few.

Clearly, both acted like children. But whats clear is that the most enormous handicap of this team was cassel. We can only speculate that Haley was holding the team back too. Frankly, I think orton re-energized this team coupled with the "new coach effect" where players respond well to a new coach. Teams that fire coaches in midseason often see that spark and hangover effect.

I do think Haley would have had this team ready to play. No idea if he play calls like this. No idea if we have a play call cluster**** (remember, we did NOT have issues getting plays in on time under palko).
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:27 PM   #78
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The playcalling was better.
Give me a specific play that wasn't effected by the QB actually throwing the ball down field rather than shitting himself.

What 2 screen passes?
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:28 PM   #79
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If Haley would have started Orton in this game, I think the outcome would have been the same.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:28 PM   #80
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Based on what I saw today, I would say no. Tyler Palko would have started and thrown at least 3 interceptions. Thomas Jones and Dexter McCluster would have each averaged less than 3 yards per carry on running plays, and Dwayne Bowe might have been lucky to catch a couple of decent throws from Palko.

The defense would have been exhausted from continuously heading back out onto the field following several 3 and outs from the offense. Therefore, they'd be so worn out by the 4th quarter they would practically be walking across the field during pass plays from the Packers.

Romeo Crennel does have previous head coaching experience, so maybe he'll get the job at the start of next season.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:28 PM   #81
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Did STs **** up this much under Haley
shit can be played 50 different ways
Oh, all those penalties were illusions. Haley's gone, the team is fixed!
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:29 PM   #82
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I don't think there is any way that he would have won this game. He would have been as stubborn and childish as he always is.

He would have started Palko. The Chiefs would have lost their composure.

The Chiefs would have gotten blown out.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:29 PM   #83
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Give me a specific play that wasn't effected by the QB actually throwing the ball down field rather than shitting himself.

What 2 screen passes?
I was being sarcastic.

Orton completed 3 more screen today than Cassel has all season (if you don't count the one he through to Eric Weddle).
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:30 PM   #84
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Did you not see DMC up the gut 2x the first drive of the 3rd quarter?

The team played hard all season, anybody who thinks otherwise is just cherry picking to make themselves feel better.
i had family over so i probably didn't see those 2 plays.

That said '2 plays' doesn't change the entire offensive flow of the game. It was different today.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is just a douchebag drinker who is trying to defend Haley.
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He would have started Palko. The Chiefs would have lost their composure.
Why in the world are you saying that?
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If Haley would have started Orton in this game, I think the outcome would have been the same.
Haley wouldn't have started Orton. No way.
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That said '2 plays' doesn't change the entire offensive flow of the game. It was different today.
Having a composed QB makes all the difference...
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Haley would have started Palko.

Everyone here seems to forget how Haley chose Palko over Orton in Chicago.
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