Maas-rac doesn't believe he can win with cassel

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Bob Fescoe ‏@bobfescoe

wow! @billmaas bringing some serious heat today telling us rac doesn't believe he can win with cassel #chiefs

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Well no shit. That's why the same shit is rehashed by the same people in every thread. Common sense doesn't apply here.

Simmah!!!

We're trying over here, okay? Heck, I even posted a Shakespeare knock off and didn't mention Cassel once. And Mr. BlackBob thinks that, were we to bench him, it would confuse the other players ... that's different.

FAX

[Micjones]

I wonder if he'd actually pull the trigger and play Quinn over Cassel?

[DaWolf]

Originally Posted by FAX

yet our GM (whose job it is to provide players consistent with and favorable to the HC's objectives) has done nothing to address the issue.

That, my friends, is strange. Very strange. I don't care what planet you're from.

FAX

People have always said that Pioli is "married" to Cassel for the long term, and he is too stubborn or too close to Cassel to cut ties with the guy. I used to think "there is no way a guy who makes his living on trying to build winning football teams would put all that in jeopardy just to prove that he was right about Cassel and everyone else was wrong, especially when it is evident that Cassel has reached his ceiling and will never become anything better." Yet here we are...

[FAX]

Originally Posted by DaWolf

People have always said that Pioli is "married" to Cassel for the long term, and he is too stubborn or too close to Cassel to cut ties with the guy. I used to think "there is no way a guy who makes his living on trying to build winning football teams would put all that in jeopardy just to prove that he was right about Cassel and everyone else was wrong, especially when it is evident that Cassel has reached his ceiling and will never become anything better." Yet here we are...

No ... you're right.

It's extraordinary. I cannot fathom the rationale. Particularly when you consider the fact that even Weis and Crennel (Pioli's old posse) wouldn't throw a wet rat on Cassel if he were ablaze.

There's some kind of mental or emotional thing going on here that is beyond my ability to understand.

FAX

[Micjones]

I think he'll move on from Cassel when he has access to a QB he believes is clearly better.

Remember he made an attempt at signing Manning.

He might not get that chance, but I believe he would.

[Bowser]

This whole Pioli/Cassel thing is the exact same as Vermeil/Green. Only except Vermeil knew quarterbacks, and Green could read defenses and go through progressions.

And Mr. FAX, with Pioli, it all comes down to ego. That's the only thing left at this point as to why he would not have cut Bait on Cassel. Sadly, your boy Whitlock warned us of this years ago.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by DaWolf

People have always said that Pioli is "married" to Cassel for the long term, and he is too stubborn or too close to Cassel to cut ties with the guy. I used to think "there is no way a guy who makes his living on trying to build winning football teams would put all that in jeopardy just to prove that he was right about Cassel and everyone else was wrong, especially when it is evident that Cassel has reached his ceiling and will never become anything better." Yet here we are...

I don't know of any other way to look at it. He's had a chance to draft other QBs and went with a 5th rounder in Stanzi. He said he was bringing in competition and brought a failure in Quinn who was told as soon as he signed that he was backup. There is absolutely no other way to look at it.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Micjones

I think he'll move on from Cassel when he has access to a QB he believes is clearly better.

Remember he made an attempt at signing Manning.

He might not get that chance, but I believe he would.

Disagree with this. Orton was CLEARLY better, and they let him walk to be a ****ing backup to Romo.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by whoman69

I don't know of any other way to look at it. He's had a chance to draft other QBs and went with a 5th rounder in Stanzi. He said he was bringing in competition and brought a failure in Quinn who was told as soon as he signed that he was backup. There is absolutely no other way to look at it.

And don't forget he apssed on Russell WIlson this year to take Donald ****ing Stephenson in the third round.

Apparently for Pioli, it's more important to have a young player on hand to help leverage in contract negotiations NEXT year with your established left tackle than it is to have a legitimate young quarterback on your roster. Gah, that still pisses me off.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Bowser

This whole Pioli/Cassel thing is the exact same as Vermeil/Green. Only except Vermeil knew quarterbacks, and Green could read defenses and go through progressions.

And Mr. FAX, with Pioli, it all comes down to ego. That's the only thing left at this point as to why he would not have cut Bait on Cassel. Sadly, your boy Whitlock warned us of this years ago.

Yep. And I didn't believe him and I called him a bad name too. I feel kinda silly and embarrassed.

I think I'll eat some ice cream.

FAX

[OnTheWarpath15]

The way his defense is playing, RAC couldn't win with the love child of Joe Montana and Tom Brady.

[sedated]

I heard that this morning and it was all speculation and "what ifs". And it doesn’t matter, IMHO Pioli never would have given RAC the job if he didn’t agree to having Cassel as his QB. He signed up for it, he has to deal with it.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Bowser

And don't forget he apssed on Russell WIlson this year to take Donald ****ing Stephenson in the third round.

Apparently for Pioli, it's more important to have a young player on hand to help leverage in contract negotiations NEXT year with your established left tackle than it is to have a legitimate young quarterback on your roster. Gah, that still pisses me off.

I’m guessing this has more to do with ownership than Pioli. Why would a GM care about constantly drafting replacements for talented players if he had an owner who was willing to open up the wallet? Its probably an order from above – “you can keep 3 guys on $50 million deals, but everyone else will walk. You’re the so-called genius, you figure it out.”

[the Talking Can]

replaying it right now on 610

[DaWolf]

Originally Posted by Bowser

And don't forget he apssed on Russell WIlson this year to take Donald ****ing Stephenson in the third round.

Apparently for Pioli, it's more important to have a young player on hand to help leverage in contract negotiations NEXT year with your established left tackle than it is to have a legitimate young quarterback on your roster. Gah, that still pisses me off.

I don't think Pioli will ever draft a QB who isn't a prototypical pocket passer. I can't remember why, but over the years I've read enough, via the book War Room or via other articles about his thoughts on Bledsoe and Brady, to get the sense that if a guy is not a prototypical pocket passer who comes from a pro-style offense in college, Pioli will not strongly consider him, because he thinks there is more risk of failure. Which is why he probably never seriously thought about RGIII.

Based on Stanzi, I think Pioli is banking that if he keeps trying to draft guys in the 4th to 7th rounds who are in pro-style offenses in college, that he will eventually hit on a guy who is as hard a worker as Brady and it will translate on the field. The evidence however shows that pretty much everyone he's drafted since Brady has not translated well on the field, including Stanzi...