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Old 10-30-2012, 04:37 PM  
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:42 PM   #76
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Come on? How good did Deion Branch look in Seattle without TB?

I'm with you on a lot of this, but you're off base with this.
No, he's not.

The Chiefs receiving corp, outside of Bowe, is dogshit.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:44 PM   #77
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Elite?

You live in a ****ing fantasy world.

Then again, you think the entire roster is "solid" outside the QB position.

The reasoning behind 1-6 is a helluva lot more than the QB, folks. And that's coming from the President of the **** Matt Cassel Fan Club.
No. It's the QB, it's our unimaginative offensive coordinator, and our clueless head coach. And our absent defensive coordinator, who happens to be our defensive coach.

It's not like these guys are not doing these jobs. These guys have been impressively bad.

C'mon, think back to Green Bay and Pittsburgh last year. Charles starts over Battle, Hillis is your goal line back, Moeaki starts over McConnell, Berry starts over Piscitelli, Boss starts over Pope. You can't tell me that's not a very good team, even with average Kyle Orton at the helm.

Now add in a coach that plays with Jim Harbaugh discipline and toughness. An defense with the imagination of Dom Capers. An offense with the imagination of Harbaugh's.

Even with Kyle Orton and those pieces above, you're going to tell me that you add those to last year's second half Chiefs and this isn't a team with a shot at a deep playoff run?
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:44 PM   #78
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Seriously.

I'm glad I picked today to stick my head in and check things out. I needed a laugh.
It might as well be 2009 all over again for a lot of the people that post here.

Haley's a good to great coach and the team's just a player away from the playoffs. McCluster is the bomb, he just needs more touches. And Jackson and Dorsey are NOT overrated.



Oh, and EVERYONE had a bad 2009 draft! Haven't you heard?

No talent whatsoever.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:46 PM   #79
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An defense with the imagination of Dom Capers.
Capers?



The ****ing guy should have been fired 2 years ago! The Packers weakness is their shit defensive scheme.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:46 PM   #80
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Derrick Johnson has maybe two good seasons left. He's hardly a guy I'd tout as being anything special, especially given that he's really only had one above average season.



Outside of Poe and possibly Powe, every one of these mother****ers can hit the road. They're not even AVERAGE.






Haley's defense? Haley's defense?

It was Haley's defense from the standpoint that they played disciplined and tough. This defense's attitude has done a 180.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:47 PM   #81
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Capers?



The ****ing guy should have been fired 2 years ago! The Packers weakness is their shit defensive scheme.
Shit, sorry. Meant to say Wade Phillips in Houston. Stupid mistake.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:47 PM   #82
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Even with Kyle Orton and those pieces above, you're going to tell me that you add those to last year's second half Chiefs and this isn't a team with a shot at a deep playoff run?
A deep playoff run?

With zero injuries and good QB play we might be a playoff team. A one and done playoff team.

That's it.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:47 PM   #83
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Capers?



The ****ing guy should have been fired 2 years ago! The Packers weakness is their shit defensive scheme.
Dom Capers.

****ing priceless.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:48 PM   #84
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No, he's not.

The Chiefs receiving corp, outside of Bowe, is dogshit.
Not sure how you can thoroughly judge Baldwin based on his time in league and playing time or Breaston for that matter based on playing time (he was solid in ARZ). I'm no fan, but McCluster isn't as bad as some think (although I'll conceed his draft postition was stupid and wouldn't mind him leaving).

I can't help but think with a good Offensive coordinator and even a half assed QB, this WR corp looks waaay better.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:50 PM   #85
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A deep playoff run?

With zero injuries and good QB play we might be a playoff team. A one and done playoff team.

That's it.
We won't make the Super Bowl until we have a very good QB. I agree with that, which is why I'm not saying we should be happy with Kyle Orton.

I just don't buy the board on here in a panic that our team is so bad we need an overhaul. How can people look at the 2012 defense and 2011 defense and not see that the same players are playing 100 times worse? How can anyone not see that Kyle Orton, while failing to close drives, moved the ball down the field in drives seamlessly even behind a brokedick offensive coordinator.

I don't know how anybody can look at this 2012 team and even for a second claim that this is what both units are capable of.
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Dom Capers.

****ing priceless.
That was an honest mistake. I thought of Houston and Capers was the name that came to my head. It's not what I meant at all.
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Not to derail the thread, but RGIII is getting a lot of credit but he's not delivering W's. I love the kid, but I think everyone is a bit over enamored with him.

Again....I LOVE the kid.
RGIII has a bunch of assholes dropping balls all over the place. They had like 9 drops yesterday. No excuse. Plus his OL is average at best.
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I just don't buy the board on here in a panic that our team is so bad we need an overhaul.
We don't need an overhaul.

But we need 7 or 8 new starters for sure. Plus depth.
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Not sure how you can thoroughly judge Baldwin
Because he isn't just bad. He's completely invisible.

Matt Cassel actually HAS HAD SOME SUCCESS with SOME receivers in this league.

They didn't completely suck. Key.
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We don't need an overhaul.

But we need 7 or 8 new starters for sure. Plus depth.
Easily correct taking into account the O and D lines, plus secondary.
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