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oaklandhater · 01-21-2014, 10:35 AM

#49ers Empire: Do you believe in Head Coach Jim Harbaugh and QB Colin Kaepernick or is it time for a change?
— 95.7 The GAME (@957thegame) January 21, 2014

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**Mav** · 01-21-2014, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

I cant stand either one of those guys but this is as stupid as it gets.

They obviously need to get more cheese in their bellies to soak up some of that wine.

The obvious is being pointed out in this tweet though.

More and more, people are starting to understand that Jim ****ed up.

They are holding him responsible.

For the past year and a half people have said it was Roman who was the problem.

Then the weapons around Kap. People are starting to understand what the rest of the league figured out. Contain Kap, make him a pocket passer, take away his first read, don't let him run, and he will crack.

Seattle did all of that in the 4th quarter. And the results showed.

**HemiEd** · 01-21-2014, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Would you trade Reid/Smith for Harbaugh/Kaep?

In a nano second.

**Mav** · 01-21-2014, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

In a nano second.

LOL. It amazes me with you people.

The 49ers offense has gotten WORSE since Alex Smith left, DESPITE the talent around Kaepernick getting better. You people just don't get it.

Alex Smith was NEVER the problem in San Francisco.

But, you would want to bring both of those problems here.

Typical.

Sorter · 01-21-2014, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor

Coach needs to change the offense to better fit the QB or QB needs be changed.

26yo QBs usually don't change who they are after 3 seasons.

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**Mav** · 01-21-2014, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

You are better than this.

Alex Smith showed with good coaching, he could get better. Kap has shown with good coaching, and freedom, and expectations, he got WORSE.

Stop it mister.

Naughty.

**Easy 6** · 01-21-2014, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

The obvious is being pointed out in this tweet though.

More and more, people are starting to understand that Jim ****ed up.

They are holding him responsible.

For the past year and a half people have said it was Roman who was the problem.

Then the weapons around Kap. People are starting to understand what the rest of the league figured out. Contain Kap, make him a pocket passer, take away his first read, don't let him run, and he will crack.

Seattle did all of that in the 4th quarter. And the results showed.

I wouldnt argue with any of that, but these Niner fans still take the cake... they've had big time winning football for the last several years again and now are going a bit nuts.

If they stick with Harbaugh, dickhead though he may be, they'll continue to enjoy big time football... Kaep? yeah, the better defenses can neutralize him so far, we'll see if he can become a better pocket passer in the future.

But Kaep is a prime example of why I'm not usually big on QB's who're extremely talented runners... they often tend to rely on that way too much and in the process dont work hard enough on becoming complete at the position IMO.

Sorter · 01-21-2014, 01:46 PM

I think it's premature to say you've completely established what a QB is after their 2nd year (but not a full 2 years) starting.

**Mav** · 01-21-2014, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

I wouldnt argue with any of that, but these Niner fans still take the cake... they've had big time winning football for the last several years again and now are going a bit nuts.

If they stick with Harbaugh, dickhead though he may be, they'll continue to enjoy big time football... Kaep? yeah, the better defenses can neutralize him so far, we'll see if he can become a better pocket passer in the future.

But Kaep is a prime example of why I'm not usually big on QB's who're extremely talented runners... they often tend to rely on that way too much and in the process dont work hard enough on becoming complete at the position IMO.

I watched him some in college, and I never saw it. I saw the throwing motion, the lack of touch, or trajectory on his passes. I saw how he never had to read a defense, and his first instinct was to first read, and run.

That's why I never liked him. I never thought of him as a NFL qb.

He lucked into the perfect situation. But, the league figured him out pretty damn quickly.

Next year is a breaking point for him and the 49ers. If he doesn't improve dramatically, I could see them severing ties and going another way. Harbaugh isn't the problem. Kap is, but, Harbaugh made the choice to go this way. So he is responsible.

**Mav** · 01-21-2014, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

I think it's premature to say you've completely established what a QB is after their 2nd year (but not a full 2 years) starting.

I disagree completely. I think if you lack pocket awareness, and, accuracy, and touch, you are pretty much pegged as to what you are.

There are a lot of things you can improve. Usually though, pocket awareness, and accuracy, are two things that are really hard to overcome.

ViperVisor · 01-21-2014, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

Thing is Alex Smith hasn't really changed. He's a better version of himself.

In 2006 with Norv Turner he is 22yo

Gore 24% of the receptions
TEs got targets
Antonio Bryant got deep passes when it was a good matchup 1 on 1

2009 he is 25
Vernon Davis TE in the middle of the field, mid-range a lot 129 targets 13 TDs. *some of this is Shaun Hill but 10 of the TDs are in 10.5 games with Smith*

2013
Jamaal Charles was 23% of the catches this year.
Lots of passes to TEs even though they were a hodgepodge.
Occasional deep pass when the matchup was 1 on 1.

Sorter · 01-21-2014, 02:03 PM

[QUOTE=ViperVisor;10385213]Thing is Alex Smith hasn't really changed. He's a better version of himself.

I believe that's called changing.

ViperVisor · 01-21-2014, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

I believe that's called changing.

It's progression not morphing.

Changing is Cutler playing like Alex Smith or vice versa.

**Dylan** · 01-21-2014, 02:26 PM

Mavericks enjoy reading your posts.

I have noticed that inside the 20, when the defense stacks more players, Kaepernick has issues. He can throw a nice 30-yarder occasionally, but has trouble throwing 8 yards or so. In fact, I cannot remember seeing him throw one slant or check down on Sunday - the back of the field is open but it seems he never looks.

Kaepernick is not good on short passes. He has trouble fitting the ball into a tiny space consistently, which leads to FGs - Is it touch? I am not sure. Nevertheless, his accuracy problems have handcuffed his receivers.

The 49ers have had the same team for three years. Love the team; however, minus Kaepernick the team is simply awesome.

Sorter · 01-21-2014, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor

It's progression not morphing.

Changing is Cutler playing like Alex Smith or vice versa.

So, progression isn't change?

Interesting.

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Dylan The Lede Join Date: Aug 2007 Casino cash: $10016591	Mavericks enjoy reading your posts. I have noticed that inside the 20, when the defense stacks more players, Kaepernick has issues. He can throw a nice 30-yarder occasionally, but has trouble throwing 8 yards or so. In fact, I cannot remember seeing him throw one slant or check down on Sunday - the back of the field is open but it seems he never looks. Kaepernick is not good on short passes. He has trouble fitting the ball into a tiny space consistently, which leads to FGs - Is it touch? I am not sure. Nevertheless, his accuracy problems have handcuffed his receivers. The 49ers have had the same team for three years. Love the team; however, minus Kaepernick the team is simply awesome. __________________
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