Do you believe in Ghosts?

[chiefs_freak]

well i have been thanking about this topic for a while now and im going to do a survey on it. Do you guys believe in ghost? are they real or fake? Have you ever incountered one? plus i thought this would be a fun post. please tell!

[BIG_DADDY]

I'm a believer. I had one very freaky experience when I was a teenager. I used to go to a friends house to party on weekends and would stay there because I didn't want to get pulled over. I slept on the couch and during the night I would hear the cubboards opening and closing. I talked to them the next morning thinking he was playing some kind of prank on me. He said the apartment was haunted and that the cubboard thing happened all the time. I had this happen several times and would jump up from the couch and go into the kitchen and get goosebumps. I still was not fully convinced until one time when I was setting up a stereo system for a party at his place later that night. He was at work and there was nobody there except me and a freind who had no idea about the place. We were in the bedroom when all of the sudden there was a click sound in the living room. He had a stereo receiver with one of those turntables on top. When you pulled down on that lever it would make a click sound and the turntable would come on and the needle would place itself on the album as well as turn on the receiver. We both took a couple steps from where we were standing to pop our heads into the living room just in time to hear Styx Grand Illusion come on. We were both stone sober and the system had been completely off. We both freaked. Later I confirmed with the guy that lived there that he had had the same thing happen several times. Freeeaakkky

[marcus]

...you know those pricklies you feel on the back of your neck...

put on a scarf it's cold!

People who beleive in ghosts see ghosts, they hear a noise, feel a cold breeze, it's a ghost.
People who do not beleive in ghosts do not, they hear a noise, feel a breeze, it's the water pipes or a drafty window.

I do not.

Marcus

[Clint in Wichita]

I can't imagine dying, becoming a "ghost", and hanging around my old house just so I can turn lights on and off and make the floorboards squeak.

If ghosts were real, there would millions of them all over the place, if not billions.

I think some people have watched "Poltergeist" a few too many times. Put down the remote and slowly back away from the light...err....the TV.

[Clint in Wichita]

BTW, I went to high school with a guy that said he saw Captain Crunch hovering in his living room, laughing at him. Freaky, huh?

That was immediately after he finished sniffing rubber cement fumes.

[chiefs_freak]

Well then for ghost not to be real what about all those people who said that they have seen a ghost. are they just lying or crazy? well i think that not every person when they die can come back as a ghost i think that they have something keeping them on this earth, it may be unfininshed business or some other reason cause why would they want to stick around after they are already dead? pointless if you ask me. so there is something that is keeping these spirits around after death.

[morphius]

CF - Clint's answer was pretty predictable. Of course I was expecting it to say something more degrading then watching to many scary movies. I would expect that he has to see something with his own two eyes and then he "might" believe.

[Clint in Wichita]

Excuuuuuuse me! I guess I'm the dummy here, huh?

Maybe a ghost remains on Earth after death because he feels as if he has lights to turn on, or chains to rattle before going on to Heaven, or whatever.

Why ghost sightings are any more credible than alien abductions or bigfoot sightings, I have no idea.

Have I ever told you about the time I saw the tooth fairy....

[morphius]

Originally posted by Clint in Wichita
Have I ever told you about the time I saw the tooth fairy....

She didn't beat you up and turn you into the bitter man that you are did she

Morphius
Yup a Monday.

[Pitt Gorilla]

etrain,
Maybe the guy was alive and just a bit intrusive...

[Rausch]

What I find interesting is that quite often someone who believes in God does not believe in Ghosts, and someone who doesn't believe in any form of religon DOES believe in ghosts.

However one would justify the existance of ghosts, if one does believe in them, it almost automatically leads to one believing in the existance of a "soul" and an afterlife.

To believe in ghosts would almost certainly mean one would have to believe in an afterlife, no?

[BIG_DADDY]

Morphius,

Take it easy ol Clint. It's tuff being a mental giant amongst the mentally inferior weasels that must make up all these stories to get attention.

Originally posted by BRAD_CAUDLE
What I find interesting is that quite often someone who believes in God does not believe in Ghosts, and someone who doesn't believe in any form of religon DOES believe in ghosts.

Brad, You took the thought right out of my typing fingers.

I've lived in the town I'm in now for about 3 years. When i moved here, the market was tough for housing...but one pretty nice old house was open....1 1/2 stories with an unfinished attic the landlord stored antiques in...(cool stuff....beveled glass frames with pics from the late 1800's....tin prints....cool stuff.

anywho,
There I was....living in the house, alone. I started noticing the cuppord doors open, drawers open, and the smell of cigarettes(don't smoke) in the house. MY first thought, was maybe some of the downsyndrome guys from the home up the road were messing in the house during the day.....even went home at strange hrs to check a few times....nothing....I'd close em, and once in a while, all open in the AM......no big deal......For some reason, I did get the "EEBY-Jeebies" in the basement.

One night I was sitting in my "man chair" watching the tv just before bed.....and i felt a slap in the back of my head....like if your wife caught you looking at porn on the net....open hand whap.....I turned.......I was just 3 bats hoovering around the room.......it was a fierce fight, and I'm sure the neighbors were confused by the door open in the winter, with a man in his underwear snapping a towel in the air, yelling like Geronimo........I did wake up a week later with a bite on my right hand palm....no biggie.

the wild part
One night, I half woke up to the sound like someone was vigorously ruffeling a plastic bag near my head....thought I saw a "shadow" standing over my bed........I woke up"angry".....and yelled at whatever it was "get the hell outta here"....and heard a huge "crash"....and nothing....went to sleep.

Next morning I got up for work, and when I left, noticed glass all over the yard......Two windows from my attic were completely blown from their frames, all outside and scattered along the entire lenth of my yard......not one piece of glass inside.

not one leaf down in the neighborhood, and no storms.

I tell the story at work....and the stories come out....People have moved in/out of that house for years because of a "boogie man".

don't know what it was......don't care now....I bought a house and moved.

[DJay23]

Originally posted by Clint in Wichita


If ghosts were real, there would millions of them all over the place, if not billions.

I agree with this completely and i will take it a step further. If there are ghosts of people why aren't there ghosts of anything else that has ever lived? Being a student of biology, I have learned that people are not different biologically than any other living thing. People aren't special in terms of the supernatural. THis is partly why i don't believe people have souls, or in ghosts, or afterlife or any of that stuff. If there were ghosts of everything ever people would report seeing ghost trees and ghost dinosaurs and ghost whales a lot more. you don't hear that too much.

That being said I can't explain ghost stories. i wasn't there, i don't know if someone was halucinating or what but i have a hypothesis that people get it in their head that there is a ghost and anything coincidental that matches the criteria is automatically a ghost, much as marcus said.

a lot of this comes from what i call the "conceit of man." to think that space aliens have to be humanoid, and that humans are the only ones with souls, and that we are the peak of evolution. its a product of our big conceited brains.

Ghost stories in my opinion are just a romantic way to remember the dead. i know i would never be scared walking into an old creaky attic at 2 in the morning.

Oh and MTV's Fear...................FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

watch it closely and use some inductive reasoning. there is someone from MTV wandering around these "haunted sites" and banging doors and such. alot of what you see on that show isn't that scary its, the stories they feed them that scare the contestants.

A buddy and his new wife bought a farm/house several years ago.....his brother/wife lived there for a year, and then he moved back[/preface]

They moved to a different area and sold the farm. At the "going away" bbq his wife starts telling a story.....

She said one(several later) night they were lieing in the bed, neked, she awoke to see a blond/blue eyed "figure" with a bowel cut, wool pants, henley shirt......bla blah blah....just standing there watching them.....said she woke my buddy up, and he saw it too.

I asked him later....he told the exact same story, down the the buttons on the shirt......his sister in law walked in at the end, had a caniption fit......said they saw the same thing and described it.

A month earlier, my buddy had a baby girl....the mama got up for the 5am feeding etc....fell asleep on the couch with the baby face down on her "large chest".....she said she felt a shake, heard her name....and saw him standing there....he'd woken her up....baby face down.

they felt it was a "casper the friendly ghost".

[Clint in Wichita]

Those people on "Fear" are imbeciles. Typical MTV viewers, that is.