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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.
A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.
So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way. Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...#ixzz2SWCd8Gea |
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05-08-2013, 09:20 AM | #901 |
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And for the dumbasses that want to compare Smith to Green. Trent acutally had his best QB rating in the season with the most attempts. Nearly 35 att/game and had a QBR of 95.
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05-08-2013, 09:29 AM | #902 | |
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I just ran some numbers from the regular season during Smith's "great" years. In 2011, 1949 of Smith's 3144 passing yards went to WRs. That's 62 percent. In 2012, as a starter, 1170 of Smith's 1751 passing yards went to WRs. That's 66.82 percent. If Smith had played a full season in 2012 (rather than getting benched), he projects to have thrown 2340 yards to his WRs (out of 3502). The percent increase - 4.82 percent - would have accounted for an extra 169 yards to WRs, compared to 2011 rates. I wouldn't call that "far more." I'd call that an insignificant increase.
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05-08-2013, 09:40 AM | #904 |
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Interesting that Smith was top 10 in a lot of stats his last 2 years in SF such as: QBR, accuracy, fewest INT's and yards per completion.
No reason to think he can't do that here. We have one of the more talented offense's in the league (at least on paper).
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And his stats were compiled in a run-first offense backed by a top 15 defense...
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The 49ers had a plan and asked Alex to do what he did... so he did. Did they ask so little of him because they felt he couldn't do more? Did they ask what they did of him because our offense was in its infant stages and many didn't understand the playbook? so they had to crawl before they could walk? I'm sure there are many differing answers to those questions. I feel like Harbaugh in 2011 was protecting all of the offensive players by keeping things balanced and simple. To an extent, he did the same in 2012. I remember reports stating that our OC was slowly installing piece by piece of the offense week by week. I still have questions about whether Alex can often enough roar back when the team is faced with a large deficit in points. He has done it, but has also faltered at times in this. My hope is that KC is fairly strong in other, non-QB aspects. If they are? They will not fall so far behind. I didn't expect Alex to get so much in trade as the Chiefs gave... but I am one who believes he will be worth it. It's pretty clear that Reid got his guy and wasn't gonna chance not getting him. Now all that's left is to move forward and see how it all works out. |
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I just blew Alex Smith out of the ****ing water to the point I made myself depressed and you are still clinging to his dinghy. |
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05-08-2013, 09:48 AM | #908 |
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You did? By reciting a few cherry picked stats and ignoring everything else?
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And you think they won't make a similar system for the QB to succeed?
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Smith's stats are a mirage. His accuracy and QBR numbers are inflated by his reliance on short, safe passes. QBs that throw short, safe passes primarily typically are going to have poor 3rd down conversion rates, because they don't make the "tough" throws into tight windows. He did show significant progress on YPA in 2012... that's the one ray of hope for me. Though his willingness to complete a 4 yard pass on third and 10 rather than making a tough throw that might fall incomplete inflates that YPA.
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What else is there to ignore? Mac's eye test that was also blown out of the water by Duncan? Look, I know you Alex to be something he has never been. If you take Alex's history and Reid's history and try to combine those doesn't that seem like a recipe for disaster? Let's not pretend like our defense is some elite defense either where Alex and just sit on a lead and hand the ball of to JC. It may get to that point, but right now it's not. Last edited by BigCatDaddy; 05-08-2013 at 10:02 AM.. |
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But hey some guy in Dearborn won the powerball so I guess anything can happen. Hopey Changey guys! Last edited by BigCatDaddy; 05-08-2013 at 10:02 AM.. |
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As BigCatDaddy has pointed out, there is nothing to support this gamble other than hope (that Harbaugh and Reid are capable of "fixing" Smith, and that he is now capable of throwing 30+ times a game and finding success).
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Alex is a top 18 QB that's good until we groom Bray
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