****Official Golf Thread****

['Hamas' Jenkins]

The original Bushwood thread is overflowing like Craig Stadler's FUPA.

Use this thread to discuss tournaments, swing thoughts, equipment, and golf deals.

I thought we could also use the OP to create a WITB for ChiefsPlanet members. I'll list a poster's name and put their sticks in a spoiler tag, so you can see what everyone is carrying.

[Hootie]

I ditched my x14s for my dad's old titleist 704 cb irons and, while 10 years old, I really like how I hit them. I benched my driver today for my g15 18.5° 5 wood that I hit about 240 and didn't miss a fairway. I just don't see the benefit right now of 1/3 drives going 300 yards but the other 2 putting me in miserable position when I hit my 5 wood that well. I just cannot find comfort with my driver this year. I hate spending money on clubs since I think it's the player more than the equipment but I'm close to just getting fit for a g30 and seeing what happens. Hit my partners 10° g30 weighted to fight slices and crushed the thing down the center

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I ditched my x14s for my dad's old titleist 704 cb irons and, while 10 years old, I really like how I hit them. I benched my driver today for my g15 18.5° 5 wood that I hit about 240 and didn't miss a fairway. I just don't see the benefit right now of 1/3 drives going 300 yards but the other 2 putting me in miserable position when I hit my 5 wood that well. I just cannot find comfort with my driver this year. I hate spending money on clubs since I think it's the player more than the equipment but I'm close to just getting fit for a g30 and seeing what happens. Hit my partners 10° g30 weighted to fight slices and crushed the thing down the center

Beware of the honeymoon period with new clubs.

My irons are 25 years old. There is very, very little technological advancement that has been made in irons since 1982.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Beware of the honeymoon period with new clubs.

My irons are 25 years old. There is very, very little technological advancement that has been made in irons since 1982.

Really? That I did not know. Right now I have a 9° G15 driver with a 10.5° G15 in the mail from pops ... Is a G30 really going to make a difference? Is driver technology a bit different? I just started using the G15 upgrading my Nike Sasquatch and honestly, I hit the Nike better

[O.city]

Drivers will lose spring and the technology there has changed quite a bit. Especially if you're fit by a pro for it.

In terms of Hamas with iron tech, it's pretty accurate. Problem you'll have is that they'll bend themselves to lofts you don't want if they've been hit that much and groove tech has changed a bit.

[O.city]

Specifically wedges with grooves.

If you can't catch your fingernail while running down the face get new ones.

I play alot so I usually get new wedges yearly

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Beware of the honeymoon period with new clubs.

My irons are 25 years old. There is very, very little technological advancement that has been made in irons since 1982.

LOL, that's awesome. It was only last year when my neighbor gave me these Burners. Before that I have been hitting my 1992 Dunlop irons and Spalding Executive graphite woods since, well, 1992...

I agree, golf makes a lot of their coin on paint jobs and chrome... I say that, but I'll say that woods/drivers made a HUGE leap when they went from the sixe they used to be (wood or graphite) to these huge 460cc titanium behemoths. That and hybrids.. I love me my hybrid! Everything I lost with distance in low irons because of age a got back with hybrids. The spin isn't even close, so the control isn't there, but hitting 180-200 off the fairways is a LOT simpler with a hybrid over a 3 or 5 wood...

But you are right, while I like the Burners, I can't say that they've lowered my score any, and they almost 20 years newer!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by O.city

Drivers will lose spring and the technology there has changed quite a bit. Especially if you're fit by a pro for it.

In terms of Hamas with iron tech, it's pretty accurate. Problem you'll have is that they'll bend themselves to lofts you don't want if they've been hit that much and groove tech has changed a bit.

Cast irons are not going to bend. In fact, even when you shock the metal by bending it with a mallet, it still returns back to its cast form.

Forged irons will bend themselves out of shape, but they also wear out significantly faster than cast irons.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Really? That I did not know. Right now I have a 9° G15 driver with a 10.5° G15 in the mail from pops ... Is a G30 really going to make a difference? Is driver technology a bit different? I just started using the G15 upgrading my Nike Sasquatch and honestly, I hit the Nike better

The only improvements that have been made in driver tech over the last decade is improvement of ball speed on off-center hits and movement of the center of gravity to adjust the spin of the shot. If you are properly fit for a driver, the second doesn't really matter because you'll have optimal launch conditions with a properly fitted club.

A lot of it has to do with the shaft more than the head. Nike shafts play soft to flex (they usually license MRC to make a knock-off version of a $300 aftermarket shaft for their clubs with a wildly different profile). If you don't have a swing with a violent transition, those shafts may load better for you than Ping's standard shafts (the G15 came with a Serrano and TFC shafts, both of which play true to flex).

People change drivers often because pros are paid to change their drivers often. Most have an 11-club contract. Because drivers are a sales leader, they are pressured to play the newest model, but in their fairway woods they use what works best for them. McIlroy, for example, when he was with Titleist used a 906F4 3 wood, which came out in 2006-7. Mickelson played a Rocketballz 3-wood for a long time and an Anser hybrid, and Tiger stuck with a Titleist PT 3 wood (which was one of the oldest clubs on tour) until the club basically disintegrated.

When they struggle, they often return back to the stuff that has worked for them, which is why Brandt Snedeker was using a Taylor Made model from last decade last week.

[Prison Bitch]

Golfed past 3 days. I'm totally exhausted and I rode a cart. I used to say golf was a sport but not athletics. No more. Walking 4 days and playing under the pressure they do is remarkable. They have incredible stamina.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Golfed past 3 days. I'm totally exhausted and I rode a cart. I used to say golf was a sport but not athletics. No more. Walking 4 days and playing under the pressure they do is remarkable. They have incredible stamina.

I played 18 Thursday, 9 Friday, and 18 Saturday. I always walk, and it agree that it's not marathon, but it's dam good exercise. Walk up the two hills (to 7 and 13), and down the hill (after teeing off of 3) at Teetering Rocks, and you'll know you've huffed up a hill (dragging/pushing a cart)... I know, I know, "Teetering Rocks" (!!!), but I love it... Just fun!

Lot's of sunscreen....

[Miles]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Beware of the honeymoon period with new clubs.

My irons are 25 years old. There is very, very little technological advancement that has been made in irons since 1982.

While the tech change hasn't helped with irons nearly as much as woods/hybrids it has defiantly been there. With blades and small cavity backs (i.e. purely players irons) there really hasn't been much change but with the others I have definitely seen it.

The game improvement category of irons exists now when it didn't before My 5 year old callaway x-22 tours are definitely better than the 845s and Ping ISIs I played in high school.

What are the old irons you are playing? A few weeks ago I borrowed some old DCIs from a friend while out of town and they were not half bad.

[Miles]

Actually getting irons fit for your swing might be the biggest thing for a fairly decent golfer and much bigger deal than buying new ones. For years I thought I was somewhat tall (6-1) so I need upright or at least standard lie clubs. Was shown on video how I was changing my swing/adjusting my body on the downswing to offset for even standard lie to try to even out at contact. Currently play irons that are -3.25 lie.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Miles

Actually getting irons fit for your swing might be the biggest thing for a fairly decent golfer and much bigger deal than buying new ones. For years I thought I was somewhat tall (6-1) so I need upright or at least standard lie clubs. Was shown on video how I was changing my swing/adjusting my body on the downswing to offset for even standard lie to try to even out at contact. Currently play irons that are -3.25 lie.

To date this has been the single biggest mistake I've made in golf. I laugh about "it can't be me, it has to be the clubs", but it's a little bit true. At some point I'm going to bite the bullet and just do it for my older son and me. I've just always wanted to "get those new irons" before I did that.

It's dumb, I know, so it's going to be a rainy weekend thing we do.

[Prison Bitch]

I like to walk as much as possible, do it at Heart of America quite a bit. Really makes u concentrate on ur shot. Don't want to chase balls all day

[Miles]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I ditched my x14s for my dad's old titleist 704 cb irons and, while 10 years old, I really like how I hit them. I benched my driver today for my g15 18.5° 5 wood that I hit about 240 and didn't miss a fairway. I just don't see the benefit right now of 1/3 drives going 300 yards but the other 2 putting me in miserable position when I hit my 5 wood that well. I just cannot find comfort with my driver this year. I hate spending money on clubs since I think it's the player more than the equipment but I'm close to just getting fit for a g30 and seeing what happens. Hit my partners 10° g30 weighted to fight slices and crushed the thing down the center

I had those 704cb for a few years. They had a fairly nice feel and ball action but off center hits were more rough than they should have been.