Malaysia Airlines loses contact with plane carrying 239 people

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Malaysia Airlines says it has lost contact with a plane with 239 aboard enroute from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

The airline said in a statement early Saturday it was attempting to locate the Boeing 777 after it lost contact with Subang Air Traffic Control at 2:40 a.m. It was scheduled to land in Beijing at 6:30 a.m.

China's state-run news agency Xinhua reported the plane was lost in airspace controlled by Vietnam, and did not make contact with Chinese air traffic controllers.

The plane is carrying 227 passengers, including two infants, and 12 crew members. The airline said it is working with authorities to locate the plane.

Boeing said on its Twitter account it is monitoring the situation, and "our thoughts are with everyone on board."



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[Dante84]

So, was the descent from 45000ft consistent with natural drop in altitude?

What I'm asking is, did go to 45k, then organically drop the way it would if everyone was dead.... or was there still piloting after that altitude (steering, controlled descent, adjustments, etc..)

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by tk13

Yeah, it's a sparsely traveled area of the ocean from what I've read... it seems it's not really near any shipping lanes.

yeah, there's really no reason for anyone to ever be in that area. Aside from maybe the south pole, its the most desolate area on earth.

[srvy]

Im not even sure the on board systems would alow to be programed in an accent that exceeded the airplanes safe ceiling.

I think this is why the authorities are so curious about the erased data from his flight sim hard drive.

This would not be a maneuver you practice live or even on a airline sim.

Maybe he new that if he flew it till they all passed out from depressurizing the cabin then hit the autopilot button. The plane would automatically try to recover from a decent to 23000 feet. once the systems on board deemed it safe it continued on the auto pilot program with the dead cabin aboard till it ran out fuel.

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by Dick Bull

I think the most important thing we need to think about is whether or not this gets a song like the Edmund Fitzgerald.

Lightfoot

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Dante84

So, was the descent from 45000ft consistent with natural drop in altitude?

What I'm asking is, did go to 45k, then organically drop the way it would if everyone was dead.... or was there still piloting after that altitude (steering, controlled descent, adjustments, etc..)

We did see reports that the plane was piloting waypoints early in the diversion. I don't know when that occurred relative to the ascent to 45,000 feet. That's probably a key in figuring out if the pilot offed himself.

[Dante84]

Bob Dole, weren't you an ocean castaway at one point?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Lightfoot

The legend lives on from the first class seats down
Of the plane that they call the three seventy
The plane, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the pilots sign off and get gloomy

With a load of Chinese, couple hundred or more
than the cabin would be when it's empty
The good plane, its true, had a pilot or two
Who made a turn and that's when it got squirrely.

[C3HIEF3S]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

The legend lives on from the first class seats down
Of the plane that they call the three seventy
The plane, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the pilots sign off and get gloomy

With a load of Chinese, couple hundred or more
than the cabin would be when it's empty
The good plane, its true, had a pilot or two
Who made a turn and that's when it got squirrely.

[Pushead2]

Jon Ostrower ‏@jonostrower 12m
RT @FlightDKM: Malaysia Airlines confirms fuel load on #MH370 was 49,100kg. // ~16,120 US gal. 777-200ER: 45,220 gal capacity. 6.7 lb/gal.

[JohnnyV13]

Did anyone read the pilot that posted a theory that it really was an accident?

His idea was an electrical fire. And, it really does make sense.

He pointed out that if you project the changed flight path, it leads to an airport closer than a return to Malaysia, and the approach is better....over sea vs. crossing 8,000 ft high ridges.

He saw this as a pilot looking for an emergency landing. Then he speculated an onboard electrical fire. He said what pilots would do is throw the busses, which would shut down all kinds of systems. The climb to 45,000 feet would then make perfect sense. What you'd be trying to do is max your height, decompress the cabin, and hope to starve the fire of oxygen.

He thinks the pilots, and passengers, were overcome by smoke and the plane flew on autopilot before crashing.

[Pushead2]

Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

Did anyone read the pilot that posted a theory that it really was an accident?

His idea was an electrical fire. And, it really does make sense.

He pointed out that if you project the changed flight path, it leads to an airport closer than a return to Malaysia, and the approach is better....over sea vs. crossing 8,000 ft high ridges.

He saw this as a pilot looking for an emergency landing. Then he speculated an onboard electrical fire. He said what pilots would do is throw the busses, which would shut down all kinds of systems. The climb to 45,000 feet would then make perfect sense. What you'd be trying to do is max your height, decompress the cabin, and hope to starve the fire of oxygen.

He thinks the pilots, and passengers, were overcome by smoke and the plane flew on autopilot before crashing.

Yup, that was discussed earlier in the thread.

[ForeverChiefs58]

Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

Did anyone read the pilot that posted a theory that it really was an accident?

His idea was an electrical fire. And, it really does make sense.

He pointed out that if you project the changed flight path, it leads to an airport closer than a return to Malaysia, and the approach is better....over sea vs. crossing 8,000 ft high ridges.

He saw this as a pilot looking for an emergency landing. Then he speculated an onboard electrical fire. He said what pilots would do is throw the busses, which would shut down all kinds of systems. The climb to 45,000 feet would then make perfect sense. What you'd be trying to do is max your height, decompress the cabin, and hope to starve the fire of oxygen.

He thinks the pilots, and passengers, were overcome by smoke and the plane flew on autopilot before crashing.

The only problem with that theory, is it ignores obvious signs towards the pilots.

The pilot turned off the controls, THEN says, "all right, goodnight" before turning it around. Then it's ignoring he has a home flight simulator. I live next to two pilots. An elaborate flight simulator is actually not common for pilot's to have at their house. While having a flight simulator to begin with might not raise red flags, it is a piece to the puzzle.

Just as well as his divorce and politics. While by itself not that big, when you look at big picture, there are a lot of signs pointing right at one or both.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

Did anyone read the pilot that posted a theory that it really was an accident?

His idea was an electrical fire. And, it really does make sense.

He pointed out that if you project the changed flight path, it leads to an airport closer than a return to Malaysia, and the approach is better....over sea vs. crossing 8,000 ft high ridges.

He saw this as a pilot looking for an emergency landing. Then he speculated an onboard electrical fire. He said what pilots would do is throw the busses, which would shut down all kinds of systems. The climb to 45,000 feet would then make perfect sense. What you'd be trying to do is max your height, decompress the cabin, and hope to starve the fire of oxygen.

He thinks the pilots, and passengers, were overcome by smoke and the plane flew on autopilot before crashing.

That was my guess on the second day and nothing that has come out makes it any less likely.

[Jimmya]

Need to find at least one piece to begin this investigation.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

That was my guess on the second day and nothing that has come out makes it any less likely.

What I would ask about that theory is that the Boeing engineers were, in initial days, saying it's very hard to imagine any sort of a fire on a modern 777 that would knock out their ability to communicate or control the aircraft - basically, they didn't think this was plausible?

Anyone else remember that?