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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?
Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

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Old 07-18-2012, 08:53 PM   #946
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No, we have an NFL insider speculating.
Is that your speculation?

Because I'll take Schefters over yours.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:53 PM   #947
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Actually we have an NFL insider directly naming Megatron and Fitzgerald in contract negotiations.
Did he say "Dwayne Bowe is asking for a contract like Megatron and Fitzgerald"?

No? Ok, then.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:53 PM   #948
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Bowe is worth big money, so this entire debate is unbelievably stupid. Draftabulators are cool with Baldwin and potential compensation. Meanwhile, True Fans like OTWP and myself are diligently arguing for Bowe to get paid accordingly.
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Is that your speculation?

Because I'll take Schefters over yours.
Show me the exact quote, so I know we are talking about the same thing.
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Bowe is worth big money, so this entire debate is unbelievably stupid. Draftabulators are cool with Baldwin and potential compensation. Meanwhile, True Fans like OTWP and myself are diligently arguing for Bowe to get paid accordingly.
Which is?
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Which is?
$50M is the ceiling, obviously. Anywhere from 35-50 would be just fine.
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Give Bowe 50 million guaranteed, like Deez said, not my money I don't care. He's earned it.



Would you guys give up a 2 to Dallas for Dez right now?
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And do we have any information to hint that Pioli is offering him a Kmart contract?
And we don't have any real information that Bowe is asking for a mega-contract.

What we have is some bullshit guesses.
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Which is?
I don't have an issue with him getting a top 3 contract. Factor in that he outplayed his last contract, and that getting the newest contract isn't a dollar for dollar comparison.
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Give Bowe 50 million guaranteed, like Deez said, not my money I don't care. He's earned it.



Would you guys give up a 2 to Dallas for Dez right now?
50 guaranteed? Lmao
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50 guaranteed? Lmao
You're cool with 43.5, though?

My financial tabulations show that we enter "cap hell" at 48 guaranteed to Bowe.
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50 guaranteed? Lmao
50 mil is the ceiling. Dude's our best offensive weapon, has put up legit numbers with a ****ing moron throwing him the ball, and has been a good soldier.
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You're cool with 43.5, though?

My financial tabulations show that we enter "cap hell" at 48 guaranteed to Bowe.
I don't get the difference in 6 million dollars.



For **** sake.
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And we don't have any real information that Bowe is asking for a mega-contract.

What we have is some bullshit guesses.
What we have is an insider telling us the ballpark Bowe is in.

We also know that Pioli has been very good about extending the top talent on the team to reasonable deals.

We also know that another Chief player, in a contract year, has since fired his agent, the same agent that represents Bowe.

You can sit here and spin shit any way you see to fit your opinion but everything is pointing to Bowe and/or his agent asking for the moon and not budging off of it.
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