Royals (New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository - Page 64

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

SPchief · 09-17-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

I do absolutely think this is the wrong move tonight. I'll go on record saying that. Are you going on record saying he will do well vs. such a patient lineup, in a must-win game?

Who would you have pitch?

Cephalic Trauma · 09-17-2013, 10:57 AM

PB

Keep it to yourself. No1curr. I promise.

SPchief · 09-17-2013, 10:57 AM

And if you say Will Smith, I'm done with you because you would have no clue what you're talking about.

Cephalic Trauma · 09-17-2013, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SPchief

Who would you have pitch?

I think he's in favor of converting Crow to a starter for tonight.

Could be wrong, though.

**Old Dog** · 09-17-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SPchief

Who would you have pitch?

That's pretty much my take....best of all of the realistic options. I certainly don't want them moving guys up in the rotation and missing a day of rest right now.
Hope Ventura gives us 5 quality innings and get it to the pen.

mr. tegu · 09-17-2013, 11:01 AM

The pitching has picked up the offense pretty much all year. The offense better have the attitude that it is their turn to protect their guy making his first big league start.

duncan_idaho · 09-17-2013, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Dog

That's pretty much my take....best of all of the realistic options. I certainly don't want them moving guys up in the rotation and missing a day of rest right now.
Hope Ventura gives us 5 quality innings and get it to the pen.

I'd be happy with one turn through the rotation, then turning it over to the bullpen.

Could easily get 3-4 innings out of Smith in relief... especially if the Cleveland lineup is as LH dominant as it usually is (Bourn, Kipnis, Brantley, SH in Santana and Swisher who are better from the left side in their career).

SPchief · 09-17-2013, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Dog

That's pretty much my take....best of all of the realistic options. I certainly don't want them moving guys up in the rotation and missing a day of rest right now.
Hope Ventura gives us 5 quality innings and get it to the pen.

I'm hoping for 4+ with 2 runs. Bullpen is as rested as it will probably be for the rest of the season. Tell the kid to go out and blow these guys away for a few innings and let the bullpen do their thing.

mr. tegu · 09-17-2013, 11:10 AM

Any chance this game gets cancelled? And would that be good or bad for us?

Archie F. Swin · 09-17-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Any chance this game gets cancelled? And would that be good or bad for us?

weather is supposed to move out by first pitch

**Old Dog** · 09-17-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Any chance this game gets cancelled? And would that be good or bad for us?

Doubt it....30% chance of thunderstorms. My assumption would be a day/night DH tomorrow since Cleveland opens a 4 game series with Houston starting Thursday if it were

Great Expectations · 09-17-2013, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPchief

And if you say Will Smith, I'm done with you because you would have no clue what you're talking about.

Why would Will Smith be such a bad choice?

SPchief · 09-17-2013, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations

Why would Will Smith be such a bad choice?

He's been awful starting vs the Indians in his career

Great Expectations · 09-17-2013, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPchief

He's been awful starting vs the Indians in his career

With all the lefties that they are using I'd expect him to throw 2 or 3 innings tonight.

Prison Bitch · 09-17-2013, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPchief

Who would you have pitch?

I would've given Wil Smith the start, although been tempted to throw in Luke for a spot start.

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