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Old 02-27-2013, 12:45 PM  
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Old 12-02-2013, 09:11 PM   #9766
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He's a gunslinger, and is going to gamble way more than you like. He's going to have a lot of what the **** moments. And I'm just not a big fan of him as a leader. He's completely emotionless out there. He's bar none a more talented QB out there. I think it's a reach that people are trying to act like he's going to play any better than Smith did the last 2 games.

Don't trade in a retread for a retread. Keep Smith, draft a QB early, and get the next guy ready to take over when Smith is undoubtedly going to get hurt again.
I'm A ok with this part...

Problem is, that with Smith here, the Chiefs are not going to draft an early round QB. This I believe, is the main reason why most of us do not want AS around. That and well, he is not a winner to begin with.
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Old 12-02-2013, 09:20 PM   #9767
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He's a gunslinger, and is going to gamble way more than you like. He's going to have a lot of what the **** moments. And I'm just not a big fan of him as a leader. He's completely emotionless out there. He's bar none a more talented QB out there. I think it's a reach that people are trying to act like he's going to play any better than Smith did the last 2 games.

Don't trade in a retread for a retread. Keep Smith, draft a QB early, and get the next guy ready to take over when Smith is undoubtedly going to get hurt again.
Cutler was entirely hypothetical in response to Sacc's question about what the Chiefs could do other than stand by their man.

He's an OK upgrade from Smith (12-15 QB in the league rather than 16-20ish) but not a major one. If you could do it for $2 million more a year or so, it would be worth it.

Of course, since Cutler is a 2014 FA and Smith is under contract for another year, it's all just discussion.
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Old 12-02-2013, 09:29 PM   #9768
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I really think that's impossible to know without being there every day.
This one I actually know. I know someone who played on the line with him. Said he gets a bad rep for being a dick but he didn't agree with that (don't know if he was just being political here). He's actually really quiet. He's actually kind of quiet and pretty emotionless.

But there's some red flags based on the stories and I doubt the guy I know would actually call him out on it. He hasn't done a good job hiding his temper against teammates and coaches. Including a public feud with Tice. And there's plenty of smoke including public comments from teammates that lead you to believe he's not really that well liked in the locker room.
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Old 12-02-2013, 09:41 PM   #9769
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This one I actually know. I know someone who played on the line with him. Said he gets a bad rep for being a dick but he didn't agree with that (don't know if he was just being political here). He's actually really quiet. He's actually kind of quiet and pretty emotionless.

But there's some red flags based on the stories and I doubt the guy I know would actually call him out on it. He hasn't done a good job hiding his temper against teammates and coaches. Including a public feud with Tice. And there's plenty of smoke including public comments from teammates that lead you to believe he's not really that well liked in the locker room.
I feel exactly the same with what I bolded. I also agree with the "quiet" comments but not every leader is exceptionally vocal nor needs to be. Different strokes for different folks.


Additionally, I wouldn't hold the comments about Tice against him. I suspect that's just a bad personality mesh + Jay being bitter about Martz.
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Old 12-02-2013, 09:58 PM   #9770
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Yep going for 2/9 this year so far so good
His first year he finished, but he was given the job when the starter wasn't winning. He finished his 2nd year out.

so going for 3/9.

07 and 08 are lost to the same injury..it was pretty major.

09 he was coming back from injury and took his job back halfway into the season.

10 he had an injury and Troy Smith took the job for a couple of games until defenses figured him out and they went back to Alex.

11 the concussion injury would not have kept him out except for the rule change...otherwise he probably would have finished that year out...and maybe Kaep would be playing for KC and no one would have followed because we wouldn't know what Kaep could do.

But yes, he does seem to get injured often.
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21 whole points.

Thanks, Alice.
He made the throws...

You should be complaining about TDs to the people dropping them.
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:03 PM   #9772
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2012 he started and played in 15 games.

2011 and this year, only years he has missed multiple games.
We aren't talking about Tony Moeaki...
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5 of the 7 years in the league, Cutler has played in 15 or more games in a season. That's not an injury prone quarterback.
Every time Alex was injured his coaches replaced him...he had to fight to get his job back.
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He made the throws...

You should be complaining about TDs to the people dropping them.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and throws ducks, it's probably Alex Smith.

The dude is known for tapping out at 21-22 PPG his whole career. So, not surprised we only scored 21 against Denver. Or in any game.
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:04 PM   #9775
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He made the throws...

You should be complaining about TDs to the people dropping them.
or the endzone INT and failing on the deciding series near the goalline at the end of the game.
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:08 PM   #9777
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If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and throws ducks, it's probably Alex Smith.

The dude is known for tapping out at 21-22 PPG his whole career. So, not surprised we only scored 21 against Denver. Or in any game.
At least 2 other scores were left on the field when Alex put up money throws and the receivers let us down.

We should have scored in the 40s against Denver and SD.
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:17 PM   #9778
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Cutler was entirely hypothetical in response to Sacc's question about what the Chiefs could do other than stand by their man.

He's an OK upgrade from Smith (12-15 QB in the league rather than 16-20ish) but not a major one. If you could do it for $2 million more a year or so, it would be worth it.

Of course, since Cutler is a 2014 FA and Smith is under contract for another year, it's all just discussion.
That's kind of splitting hairs though. I don't think the difference in a 12-15ish qb and a 16-20 ish qb is necessarily one that determines a sb etc.

No one is kidding themselves here in thinking Alex is ever going to be one to shoulder an elite offense by himself like a Manning or Brady will. I know that, you know that.

But (and this gets skewed because the same argument was made for Matt cassel, when it's just not the same in this instance) if you put elite or near elite players around smith, who's to say he isn't a top 12-15 ish qb? If you believe he can, that 2 million could make a difference in who you can bring in.

Obviously you'd love to have Aaron Rodgers who you can pay top dollar and take the hit of surrounding talent cause he's that good. But those guys aren't growing on trees (I know I know gotta try etc) and I don't know if you read the articles that the nflphilosophy guy wrote, but unless you have a guy who's gonna carry you're team, I dunno that I'd invest heavily in said qb.

Alex smith included for that matter.
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At least 2 other scores were left on the field when Alex put up money throws and the receivers let us down.

We should have scored in the 40s against Denver and SD.
Peyton's receivers dropped passes too. You think drops don't happen to elite QBs?

Only on CP does Alex Smith get a pass because his receivers drop them.
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Peyton's receivers dropped passes too. You think drops don't happen to elite QBs?

Only on CP does Alex Smith get a pass because his receivers drop them.
They did? Did smith go into a shell when our guys dropped balls? No, he kept throwing it. It was encouraging
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