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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?
Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

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Old 07-18-2012, 09:29 PM   #991
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Think we will ever find out what Bowe's demands actually were?
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Say Bowe wanted/wants 60 mil guaranteed, what would some of your thoughts be?
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I'm trying to figure out what Albert's firing him is supposed to tell us, and I'm coming up blank.

I can think of a handful of reasons off the top of my head, but am struggling to find how it ties Bowe and his contract demands.

And I realize this is obviously all speculation. I'm just not sure I even get what people are speculating.
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Think we will ever find out what Bowe's demands actually were?
Someone is gonna pay him.

When we see how much he gets paid we will wonder why the Chiefs couldn't pay him that money.

And we will be sad. We won't care how much it is.

Guaran-****ing-teed.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:30 PM   #995
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Say Bowe wanted/wants 60 mil guaranteed, what would some of your thoughts be?
Tag him for 2 years and develop his replacement(s).
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:31 PM   #996
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And what exactly is the agent supposed to be doing for Albert at this particular point in time?
Jfc, you know for someone who doesnt know any more than anyone else here about the situation you sure have it all figured out. My more than obvious point was there could be any number of reasons why he fired his agent but you seem to have it scooped.
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I'm trying to figure out what Albert's firing him is supposed to tell us, and I'm coming up blank.

I can think of a handful of reasons off the top of my head, but am struggling to find how it ties Bowe and his contract demands.

And I realize this is obviously all speculation. I'm just not sure I even get what people are speculating.
I'm not sure what people are speculating about either, but to me perhaps France agreed to step down/was fired because of a conflict of interest. 2 high tier players on the same team with only so much money to go around and 1 tag to be used.
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Someone is gonna pay him.

When we see how much he gets paid we will wonder why the Chiefs couldn't pay him that money.

And we will be sad. We won't care how much it is.

Guaran-****ing-teed.
So if say the Browns made him the highest paid WR in the NFL, you would be upset?


I'd be sad to see him go. Honestly, I think he's pretty damn important to the organization.
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The last time Bowe touched the field he was fn killing the Broncos. Then he hurt his neck and our offense collapsed. Why would he play knowing how much we need him and with the financial risk?
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So if say the Browns made him the highest paid WR in the NFL, you would be upset?
When you see what the offense is without him, you will be.
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The last time Bowe touched the field he was fn killing the Broncos. Then he hurt his neck and our offense collapsed. Why would he play knowing how much we need him and with the financial risk?
He wasn't the only offensive player we were missing.
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Say Bowe wanted/wants 60 mil guaranteed, what would some of your thoughts be?
I think around 50m is a realistic target from both sides.

But consider we are talking in context of 8 year contracts. 10m is only 1.25 per year. 20m is 2.5

We are talking about a couple million per year over the course of 8 years. I'm not sure its worth losing Bowe over.
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Some need to realize it doesn't really matter if he's better than x or o.


He's valuable to the Chiefs. Extremely valuable. Who gives a shit if he's paid more than this guy or that guy, he's is pretty much imperative to our offensive game plan and winning as a franchise. Isn't that enough?
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He wasn't the only offensive player we were missing.
We were moving the ball until Bowe went out with the neck injury.
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