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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.
A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.
So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way. Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...#ixzz2SWCd8Gea |
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05-08-2013, 12:54 PM | #1008 | |
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History says if he is asked to throw 35 times a game. It's going to fail. The question is will Reid play to the teams strengths and avoid its weakness or will he run his same pass happy system. |
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And Green threw a shit ton more intermediate balls than Alex Smith did. Even Cassel did. Alex Smith was the most risk averse starter in the league the past 2 years.
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05-08-2013, 12:57 PM | #1011 | |
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Allowing 17 pts/game gives you more options on offense than giving up 26pt/game. Last edited by BigCatDaddy; 05-08-2013 at 01:03 PM.. |
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05-08-2013, 01:16 PM | #1012 | |
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The window is open. But it will be closing by 2014. This team isn't as young as you think it is, not by a long shot. The window was opening when Scooter took over the reigns and drove the team into a mountain. 4 years later all the young talent that came in over the last couple years of Herm's time here is approaching the end of their prime years. This isn't a team that should be rebuilding, but it's definitely a team that should be operating with the knowledge that a rebuild will be necessary by 2015. And honestly, looking at this draft, I think that's exactly what they did. They went after Smith knowing that they need some base-level competency at the position in order to take advantage of the primes of their best players. They then used the rest of the draft on picks that many of us see as somewhat redundant picks, but on BPA guys that they realize will probably be needed to step in sooner than you think. As I've taken a longer look at this draft, I think they did a very smart thing in how they approached it. This team isn't a young team anymore and Reid/Dorsey wisely approached it as a team starting from scratch.
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05-08-2013, 01:22 PM | #1013 | |
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Trent Green played in an Air Coryell offense. Alex Smith played for a coach who wanted to run the ball, avoid turnovers, and rely on good defense. I don't know why the number of throws or the yardage stats matter so much given the vastly different circumstances. Alex Smith is the love child of Trent Green and Rich Gannon. He's smart, mobile, has a fine arm, and all the leadership charisma you could want. He may or may not pan out as the Chiefs starter, but the people writing him off already are delusional.
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05-08-2013, 01:28 PM | #1014 |
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Jim Harbaugh wants to Run the ball and avoid turnovers....until he made the switch to a quarterback he wasn't limited to that kind of attack with. Kaepernick averaged a hundred more offensive yards per game than Alex Smith WITH THE SAME TEAM AROUND HIM. |
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Obviously Harbaugh trusted one QB to throw the ball deep more than the other. Or are you saying he's stupid and didn't use Alex Smith correctly?
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Number of passes over 10 yards:
In 7 starts Kaerpernick had 81 In 9 starts, Smith had 56 Passes over 20 yards: Kaepernick: 31 Alex Smith: 17
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Ah, I see the usual litany of excuses, what-ifs and crys that it was everyone else's fault. If only we would judge Smith on individual performance we would feel differently.
Ok, let's examine Smith's individual performance... At his very best, Smith has produced: About 200 yards per game and a personal record of 18 touchdowns in a season. I'm not sure how anyone can judge this production as anything other than pathetic in today's NFL. Smith doesn't even make the list for single-season passing touchdowns. He isn't even tied for 229th on the list... he doesn't appear anywhere on the list. In fact, doubling Smith's best year would only tie him for 16th on the list of single-season passing touchdowns. You would have to nearly triple his production to jump to 1st on that list. Tell me again why I should be excited to have a player like Smith at a cost of two very high draft picks. Smith may be good enough to not lose games, but he is nowhere near good enough to carry a team to a Super Bowl. Smith is not a playmaker; he is the guy who will likely be just good enough to prevent the Chiefs from drafting a legit QB. |
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