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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.
A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.
So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way. Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...#ixzz2SWCd8Gea |
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05-08-2013, 01:50 PM | #1021 |
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Alex Bad Ass Smith has not even thrown a pass for us and he has been called every name in the book on here. lol
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05-08-2013, 01:51 PM | #1022 | |
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The way I'm saying it is that the window that should have been opening during Pioli's reign is finally opening now and if the Chiefs make the right personnel moves they can both start to win now and continue to win for several years to come. It's not the kind of win now situation that took place in Vermeil's last years or that is taking place in Denver.
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05-08-2013, 01:57 PM | #1023 |
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That statistical analysis of why this was such a bad move it's off the charts. Even the most zealous supporters have to resort to "maybe he'll turn the corner in his 30's".
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05-08-2013, 02:00 PM | #1024 |
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And this is where you lost me.
Why do you think Denver's window is any shorter than ours? Some of their best players are as young or younger than ours - Decker, Thomas and Miller being chief among them. You're referring to Manning, obviously, but Manning probably has 2-3 more good years left before they have to deal with the QB position. Bailey's also probably only looking at another good year or two. But really folks - Hali's closer to that same place in his career than you want to believe. The difference between the Chiefs and Broncos windows is not the duration of them, but just how wide open they are. The Chiefs will have to do everything right and catch a few breaks to win a SB (or even an AFC championship) with Alex Smith at the helm. The Broncos don't have nearly that thin a margin for error. The Chiefs window is 2-3 seasons....so is the Broncos. You only think theirs is a 'win now' desperation window because they have much higher to fall from than we do. The Chiefs window, when it closes, will close the door on an era of 10 win seasons and hoping for nice bounces in the post-season. The Broncos, OTOH, will fall from 13 wins, bye weeks and prohibitive favorite status. The Broncos are no more in 'win now' mode than we are - they're just better at it.
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I'd love to think so but I smell less than the force with this one...
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05-08-2013, 02:03 PM | #1026 |
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Considering the bumbling fumble machines we have had at QB- Alex is a huge upgrade and was the Best available. He is our QB now- so calling him names and dragging up stats from years ago is meaningless. The only thing that matters is what he does now for the Chiefs. If he throws 50 yards a game with 0 turnovers and we WIN- that is better than anything Cashole did.
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05-08-2013, 02:10 PM | #1028 |
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I think he is trying a new semi-troll shtick hence the Alex "Bad-Ass" Smith.
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05-08-2013, 02:14 PM | #1029 | |
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I won't argue that Alex Smith is better than anything the Chiefs had on the roster last year. That's also dubious praise - kinda of like being the smartest kind on the short bus or the most compassionate person in patteau's household. But it's a move with limited upside. Yes, It helps them win more NOW with the players here before they are washed up, but it only gets the team into the "win enough to scrape into the playoffs and maybe host a first-round game" territory. They're not going to make a serious postseason run with Alex Smith at QB sans him pulling a Gannon or sans the Chiefs defense turning into a killer unit (even better than the one he couldn't make a serious postseason run with in San Fran). You don't build a consistent winner that can challenge for multiple postseason runs without an elite or franchise guy at QB. And by trading so much for Alex Smith, even if this leadership group is NOT hitching its wagon to Alex Smith, it is taking on an extreme opportunity cost. If the Chiefs win an average of 10 games the next two years with Alex Smith, they're going to be drafting in the teens to early 20s. And without a second round pick next year, they're severely limited in what they can do in the draft. Say there's a guy like Roethlisberger that KC and Reid LOVE in next year's draft who's slipping to 10-12 in round 1. Without a second rounder, it's that much harder to move up and grab that guy. Finding a franchise QB is hard. Alex Smith makes it harder in a lot of ways, because they're likely to win JUST enough to require serious flexibility or creativity or luck to go take "their" guy in the draft.
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05-08-2013, 02:15 PM | #1030 |
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My point was Winning is all that matters. I have never seen so much hate for a player that has not even thrown one pass yet-lol Our QB situation is 100% better than the last few years.
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05-08-2013, 02:16 PM | #1031 |
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... And still not good enough to do anything worth writing home about.
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05-08-2013, 02:20 PM | #1032 |
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Winning fixes a lot.
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05-08-2013, 02:24 PM | #1034 |
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You misunderstand. This season will be a lot of fun because of these absurd predictions. I remember just a year ago when the Chiefs were going to win the division because Berry, Charles and Moeaki were all coming back.
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05-08-2013, 02:24 PM | #1035 | |
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Side note: Does anybody have current contact information for Lawrence Taylor? I would rather have seen them draft BPA, sign a middling QB in FA to place hold for a year or two, and take a shot at a QB in 2 or 3 this year (or 4 or anything other than UDFA), and then see what's available at QB next year. If that means winning 5 games this year instead of 8, 9 or 10, oh well.
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