Chiefs Raiders Trade for Carson Palmer - Page 69

**doomy3** · 09:52 AM

Per Rotoworld, the Raiders are close to acquiring Carson Palmer.

On my phone, so no link, but what the hell do the Raiders have left to trade?

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Originally Posted by doomy3

Schefter reporting that trade is completed. 2012 first and 2013 conditional first.

Amazing.

R8RFAN · 10-19-2011, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chronic

That's why your team hasnt won shit since we put a man on the moon

Or since Gatorade was invented

jspchief · 10-19-2011, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

I think it's is gonna be well worth that just to see this forum go Nuclear when Palmer breaks one off in your ass

Don't hold your breath. Most of us aren't going to be surprised by a loss, no matter how ugly it is.

Right now, beating the chiefs is just a 1st round win in the special olympics bracket.

SPATCH · 10-19-2011, 11:54 AM

Ok, look raider scum..

You might have had a chance to spin this as a good trade if your team was a good quarterback away from contending for a championship. However, your team is more of a Tom Brady away from a SB than a ****ing Carson Palmer away from a SB.

Sweet trade.

We'll keep our foresight and continue to build through the draft.

Good day. Bitches.

Chronic · 10-19-2011, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

We want a franchise QB that will play for a long time. We've already seen how the "trading for a old QB" movie ends.

It's because your franchise is inept

Warner took the Cards to the Super Bowl, Trent Dilfer won a SB, Brad Johnson was 34 when the Bucs brought him in and won a SB

Rich Gannon was pushing 40 when he took Oakland to a Super Bowl

Plenty of examples

R8RFAN · 10-19-2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Don't hold your breath. Most of us aren't going to be surprised by a loss, no matter how ugly it is.

Right now, beating the chiefs is just a 1st round win in the special olympics bracket.

Cmon man , resist a little will ya?

Okie_Apparition · 10-19-2011, 11:55 AM

Palmer the immobile, could get hurt playing against the Dolphins pass rush. He shouldn't play this soon

**The Franchise** · 10-19-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RaiderJave

There's an 86 page thread on how bad Cassel sucks, but you wouldn't make a trade for Palmer? Interesting. So I'm assuming you'd rather have Cassel then Palmer.

I don't want either of them.

milkman · 10-19-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

I think it's is gonna be well worth that just to see this forum go Nuclear when Palmer breaks one off in your ass

With the combination of Crennel's soft scheme and the rules favoring the passing game, I'd be surprised if Palmer doesn't have a good day.

And....if he doesn't you better start worrying that your team just pissed away those drfat picks.

jspchief · 10-19-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

With the combination of Crennel's soft scheme and the rules favoring the passing game, I'd be surprised if Palmer doesn't have a good day.

And....if he doesn't you better start worrying that your team just pissed away those drfat picks.

Yep. I envision Ford and HB destroying us across the middle with our terrible safeties.

FringeNC · 10-19-2011, 11:59 AM

The more I think about this, the more I am willing to give the Raiders a little benefit of the doubt. The Raiders have made it clear that they believe Carson Palmer is completely healthy, and that his statistics in Cincinnati were a function of WRs who refused to learn to run routes. They believe he is up there in the top 5 QBs. If in fact he is, the trade is worth it. 5-6 years of having a Hall of Fame-caliber QB is worth two firsts (and evidently the Raiders believe he is).

It all boils down to whether Palmer is Drew Brees or Matt Cassel. Having said all that, you have to think about a winner's curse in auctions. What information did the Raiders that the other teams in the league didn't? Either Hue Jackson is smarter than other coaches,or he's an idiot. If Palmer flops, not only are the Raiders out two high draft picks, but their organization is being run be a moron.

milkman · 10-19-2011, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

The end of the story for KC does not have the same ending for the Raiders.... We recycle old QB's and go to the SB.

That worked when defenses were actually allowed to play defense.

You aren't going to win SBs in today's NFL with retreads and rejects.

If Palmer returns to pre-2005 form, a potentially that I'm not willing to dismiss, then you have a chance.

If he continues to be the mediocre QB of the last 5-6 years, then you don't.

Frosty · 10-19-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chronic

It's because your franchise is inept

Warner took the Cards to the Super Bowl, Trent Dilfer won a SB, Brad Johnson was 34 when the Bucs brought him in and won a SB

Rich Gannon was pushing 40 when he took Oakland to a Super Bowl

Plenty of examples

So all of those teams traded 1st round picks for their retread QBs?

I was talking about what I want for the Chiefs. I don't give a **** what other teams do. The Chiefs haven't drafted a 1st round QB since 1983 (and took the wrong one then). We've already tried the retread QB, the back up QB from a different team, and the late round QB. It's time to try something different.

(Remember - you asked if we would have wanted to trade for Palmer)

**The Franchise** · 10-19-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

The more I think about this, the more I am willing to give the Raiders a little benefit of the doubt. The Raiders have made it clear that they believe Carson Palmer is completely healthy, and that his statistics in Cincinnati were a function of WRs who refused to learn to run routes. They believe he is up there in the top 5 QBs. If in fact he is, the trade is worth it. 5-6 years of having a Hall of Fame-caliber QB is worth two firsts (and evidently the Raiders believe he is).

It all boils down to whether Palmer is Drew Brees or Matt Cassel. Having said all that, you have to think about a winner's curse in auctions. What information did the Raiders that the other teams in the league didn't? Either Hue Jackson is smarter than other coaches,or he's an idiot. If Palmer flops, not only are the Raiders out two high draft picks, but their organization is being run be a moron.

The Raider's hand was forced. Either trade for a QB or roll with Kyle Boller.

R8RFAN · 10-19-2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

With the combination of Crennel's soft scheme and the rules favoring the passing game, I'd be surprised if Palmer doesn't have a good day.

And....if he doesn't you better start worrying that your team just pissed away those drfat picks.

milkman I have been watching Raiders/Chiefs football for 35+ years and one thing I know is there are rarely easy victories....

1 game will not determine is Palmer is a bust for the Raiders.

Chronic · 10-19-2011, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula

We'll keep our foresight and continue to build through the draft.

Like Tyson Jackson, Glen Dorsey, Ryan Sims, Trezelle Jenkins,Sylvester Morris, Victor Riley, Junior Siavi, Alex Magee, Turk McBride, Bernard Pollard, Kris Wilson, Keryon Fox, Kawicka Mitchell, Eddie Freeman, Marvin Minnis?

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SPATCH birth of spatch Join Date: May 2008 Casino cash: $10006207	Ok, look raider scum.. You might have had a chance to spin this as a good trade if your team was a good quarterback away from contending for a championship. However, your team is more of a Tom Brady away from a SB than a ****ing Carson Palmer away from a SB. Sweet trade. We'll keep our foresight and continue to build through the draft. Good day. Bitches.
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Okie_Apparition Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: floatin cobwebs n the sky Casino cash: $10004900	Palmer the immobile, could get hurt playing against the Dolphins pass rush. He shouldn't play this soon
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10-19-2011, 11:59 AM	#1030
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $476014	The more I think about this, the more I am willing to give the Raiders a little benefit of the doubt. The Raiders have made it clear that they believe Carson Palmer is completely healthy, and that his statistics in Cincinnati were a function of WRs who refused to learn to run routes. They believe he is up there in the top 5 QBs. If in fact he is, the trade is worth it. 5-6 years of having a Hall of Fame-caliber QB is worth two firsts (and evidently the Raiders believe he is). It all boils down to whether Palmer is Drew Brees or Matt Cassel. Having said all that, you have to think about a winner's curse in auctions. What information did the Raiders that the other teams in the league didn't? Either Hue Jackson is smarter than other coaches,or he's an idiot. If Palmer flops, not only are the Raiders out two high draft picks, but their organization is being run be a moron.
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