2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

[alnorth]

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
(from alnorth)

With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Presser and not one question about RF.

"Listen guys. We're here to talk about our newest players, not to grill Moore about players already here. Understood?"

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by stevenidol

"Passan's source insists the Royals are not in on Anibal Sanchez, whose market price stands at five years and $70MM+ at this time."

The Royals would have to pay more than the going rate. That's why I said 6 for 100 earlier. Same thing for Meche a while back. His market was around 4 for 40, but the Royals had to pay 5 for 55 to get him. Many Royals fans still hate that deal, even though they are wrong, and he even gave back the last year of that deal.

i dont know of anyone who is upset over meche.

[Hootie]

what did the Royals start last year? Like 3-14 or something?

I think we were a bit better last year than our record indicated.

[stevenidol]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

i dont know of anyone who is upset over meche.

Listen to Kevin Keitzman or visit any Royals story on KC Star's site and read fan posts.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

what did the Royals start last year? Like 3-14 or something?

I think we were a bit better last year than our record indicated.

That 12-game losing streak hurt bad, plus a terrible July.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If the Cardinals would have traded Oscar Taveras for James Shields, I'd have lost my shit..

Why? That deal actually makes sense. Cards are in a position to win, and Shields helps the major league club immensely. I don't care about dealing off Myers, I care about the backend pieces AND the fact we're not ready to win. Like STL. So your point is silly here.

[stevenidol]

Stop the presses --- Tigers signed Brayan Pena.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by stevenidol

Stop the presses --- Tigers signed Brayan Pena.

They needed to get the inside scoop on Hochevar.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Wow, one click = 2 posts... Cool!

LOL, removing one of them!

There have been a lot of double posts lately.

[DaWolf]

Originally Posted by Dave

That 12-game losing streak hurt bad, plus a terrible July.

Let's just say after this deal, Yost won't be making it through any more 12 game losing streaks.

The nice thing about this deal is that it makes things very black and white. The team is expected to win over the next two years. Not some arbitrary time in the future when guys may or may not mature. Now. Otherwise they're gone...

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by stevenidol

You apparently don't remember the Royals in 99-00 that had a great offense and no pitching. How well did those teams do? How well does any team do without pitching? Signing Sanchez is not realistic within the framework of what DM has to work with.

Myers is awful defensively and a windmill at the plate. Let's not act like he doesn't have flaws.

You literally have no clue what you are talking about.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Bonifacio's closer (theoretically).

The Royals evidently like his bat better than Myers.

[stevenidol]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

You literally have no clue what you are talking about.

Well thought out.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Bowser

If the Royals can't make the playoffs these next two years, it's an epic fail. Myers was of course the gem that the Rays wanted, but that's not taking into account giving up Odo or Montgomery. That was a ton of talent we could have used for years to come, as compared to the two year rental we have on Shields right now.

I like that we have a rotation now, I really do. Put it has to pay off fast for the trade to be a win for the Royals.

Like Beltran or Greinke?

Or maybe like Mike McDougal?

Or even better, like Colt Griffin?

Look, I understand it but I just don't agree with it.

People are bitching about trading away the "future" of a team that has continuously and repeatedly demonstrated that the FUTURE NEVER HAPPENS.

[stevenidol]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/1...als-trade.html

• It would have taken Jon Niese and Zack Wheeler for the Mets to obtain a similar package to the one the Rays obtained, Andy Martino of the New York Daily News reports (on Twitter). Matt Cerrone of MetsBlog.com first reported this news four days ago.
• Though the trade reflects a sense of urgency from the Royals, Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star doesn't get the sense that GM Dayton Moore is on the hot seat.
• ESPN.com's Buster Olney suggests the Rays will delay Myers' arrival at the MLB level to ensure he doesn't obtain a full year of service time in 2013. It's also possible that the Rays could look to extend the promising outfielder, Olney suggests. I agree with both of Olney's point here. There's no way the Rays can allow Myers to get a full year of service in 2013.
• Six pro scouts don't consider the trade one-sided, J.J. Cooper of Baseball America reports. The Royals don't deserve the criticism being directed their way, the scouts told Baseball America.
• One GM told Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports that "Myers is no slam dunk" and added that this is "far from a lopsided deal." Rosenthal suggests teams like the Royals can too often get fixated on their prospects and pass on opportunities to compete.
• The Royals tried to trade Myers for Shields straight up, but the Rays said no, Yahoo's Jeff Passan writes. The Royals also tried trading Myers to Oakland for Brett Anderson only to be turned down, Passan writes.