Football Joe Montana shits on Rudy - Page 7

Hammock Parties · 11:45 PM

I love this.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...n=ncaaf-268408

Biopic fans will be shocked – shocked! – to learn that Hollywood takes liberties with the real-life narratives and characters that often come to stand in for history in the popular imagination. In the case of the enduring 1993 hit "Rudy," the film was so unrecognizably warped beyond the existence of an undersized Notre Dame player who registered an improbable sack against Georgia Tech in 1975 that former Irish coach Dan Devine called certain scenes – notably the climactic moment when Rudy's teammates confront Devine's villainous character by handing in their jerseys to get Rudy on the dress list, and later his reluctance to actually put Rudy in the game – "unforgivable" and "a lie."

Hall of Famer Joe Montana, then a lowly freshman lingering somewhere on the depth chart, doesn't remember it quite as harshly. But as he told radio host Dan Patrick on Wednesday, he certainly doesn't remember any uplifting strings swelling in the rafters, either:

DP: Were you there when Rudy was there?

JM: Yeah. It's a movie, remember. Not all of that is true.

DP: What wasn't true?

JM: Well, the crowd wasn't chanting. No one threw in their jerseys. He did get in the game. He got carried off [at the end of] the game. [...] Back then they tried to play someone at the end of [the season] that all the seniors could get in the last home game.

The schedule was kind of set that way. So he got in. He did get a sack. And then the guys carried him off, just playing around. I won't say it was a joke, but it was playing around. He worked his butt off to get where he was and to do the things he did. But not any harder than anyone else.

And so reality continues its long unbeaten streak against trumped-up sentiment – not that Rudy Ruettiger minds, now that he's parlayed his 15 minutes into a steady career as motivational speaker and "corporate trainer." I suppose anyone who's able to inspire and sell a bogus feel-good movie about himself being a run-of-the-mill scrub is destined for success.

BIG_DADDY · 09-10-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Who cares if Joe's a dick? Rudy is a phony who believes his own bullshit story.

Yea, wouldn't want to promote your own movie or anything like that. If he had any balls at all he would have just came out and just told everyone he was just a lucky midget and the whole move was just a bunch of crap.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-10-2010, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Yea, wouldn't want to promote your own movie or anything like that. If he had any balls at all he would have just came out and just told everyone he was just a lucky midget and the whole move was just a bunch of crap.

Well, it was.

**gblowfish** · 09-10-2010, 10:11 AM

While we're at it, just to be clear:
There IS NO Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, Paul Bunyan or Leprechauns.
George Washington told lies sometimes.
Elvis is dead.
Your vote doesn't really count for much.

Now, is everybody all happy?

Brock · 09-10-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Yea, wouldn't want to promote your own movie or anything like that. If he had any balls at all he would have just came out and just told everyone he was just a lucky midget and the whole move was just a bunch of crap.

It WAS a bunch of crap. His former teammates look at it like it's a big joke.

Red Brooklyn · 09-10-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

While we're at it, just to be clear:
There IS NO Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, Paul Bunyan or Leprechauns.
George Washington told lies sometimes.
Elvis is dead.
Your vote doesn't really count for much.

Now, is everybody all happy?

Of course. But the Chiefs are still going to be 11-5 this year right?

tomahawk kid · 09-10-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

It WAS a bunch of crap. His former teammates look at it like it's a big joke.

I've always had an issue with that movie and the way it shit on Dan Devine.

I know they needed a "villain", but Coach Devine was about the farthest thing from in actuality.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-10-2010, 10:15 AM

Piss on Rudy.

Piss on his head.

milkman · 09-10-2010, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

Elvis is dead.

I thought he was living in somewhere in Ohio.

tomahawk kid · 09-10-2010, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbything

I met Montana at the Tanners on 87th a few years ago. He was a pretty nice guy IMO. He had just tabbed out and stayed and talked to me for about 15 minutes before he took off.

I ran into him at Paddy O's on 119th in Leawood.

Similiar experience.

Asked to take a picture with him and said he couldn't because of a pending lawsuit? Thought that was odd.

siberian khatru · 09-10-2010, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

I've always had an issue with that movie and the way it shit on Dan Devine.

I know they needed a "villain", but Coach Devine was about the farthest thing from in actuality.

Absolutely.

My Dad knew him at MU and said he was a terrific guy.

milkman · 09-10-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Cool han Luke

Ok, so your better than me at spelling, I don't give a Matt Cassel.

All I'm saying is that you're making an excuse, and it doesn't fly.

BIG_DADDY · 09-10-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

It WAS a bunch of crap. His former teammates look at it like it's a big joke.

So tell me brock, would have you walked away from the movie deal and the money to prove you were a nobody?

Brock · 09-10-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

So tell me brock, would have you walked away from the movie deal and the money to prove you were a nobody?

I wouldn't have been party to a bunch of lies and defaming a good guy in the process. Would you?

Rasputin · 09-10-2010, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

All I'm saying is that you're making an excuse, and it doesn't fly.

Ok, I don't spell good. No excuse, sorry if it bothers you or others. I'l try a little harder, but not going to guarantee any thing. It's a process...

milkman · 09-10-2010, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool han Luke

Ok, I don't spell good. No excuse, sorry if it bothers you or others. I'l try a little harder, but not going to guarantee any thing. It's a process...

The poor spelling doesn't bother me.

It is what it is.

I just can't buy into the excuse.

Just tell it like it is.

You can't spell, and at the end of the day, you don't really care.

I can respect that.

09-09-2010, 07:46 PM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4150478	Joe Montana shits on Rudy, Dane shits on Joe Montana. I love this. http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...n=ncaaf-268408 Biopic fans will be shocked – shocked! – to learn that Hollywood takes liberties with the real-life narratives and characters that often come to stand in for history in the popular imagination. In the case of the enduring 1993 hit "Rudy," the film was so unrecognizably warped beyond the existence of an undersized Notre Dame player who registered an improbable sack against Georgia Tech in 1975 that former Irish coach Dan Devine called certain scenes – notably the climactic moment when Rudy's teammates confront Devine's villainous character by handing in their jerseys to get Rudy on the dress list, and later his reluctance to actually put Rudy in the game – "unforgivable" and "a lie." Hall of Famer Joe Montana, then a lowly freshman lingering somewhere on the depth chart, doesn't remember it quite as harshly. But as he told radio host Dan Patrick on Wednesday, he certainly doesn't remember any uplifting strings swelling in the rafters, either: DP: Were you there when Rudy was there? JM: Yeah. It's a movie, remember. Not all of that is true. DP: What wasn't true? JM: Well, the crowd wasn't chanting. No one threw in their jerseys. He did get in the game. He got carried off [at the end of] the game. [...] Back then they tried to play someone at the end of [the season] that all the seniors could get in the last home game. The schedule was kind of set that way. So he got in. He did get a sack. And then the guys carried him off, just playing around. I won't say it was a joke, but it was playing around. He worked his butt off to get where he was and to do the things he did. But not any harder than anyone else. And so reality continues its long unbeaten streak against trumped-up sentiment – not that Rudy Ruettiger minds, now that he's parlayed his 15 minutes into a steady career as motivational speaker and "corporate trainer." I suppose anyone who's able to inspire and sell a bogus feel-good movie about himself being a run-of-the-mill scrub is destined for success. Last edited by Hammock Parties; 09-09-2010 at 11:45 PM..
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