Chiefs Late Night Bullshit: Defensive Coordinators - Page 7

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-09-2013, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by booger

http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/coac...4-40f229690cfb

He's from the tree!!!

Sorter · 01-09-2013, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He's from the tree!!!

Burn with fire?

booger · 01-09-2013, 01:34 AM

booger · 01-09-2013, 01:35 AM

I just hope its true for the fact it looks like the talk of him considering staying with the 34 isn't just lip service. Sutton has experience in the 2 gap 34 and of course Ryan's multi front scheme

booger · 01-09-2013, 02:16 AM

lol yes he is!

I honestly don't know much about him.

RustShack · 01-09-2013, 02:21 AM

Must be a good coach if four different HC's kept him with the Jets. How good were his defenses from 06-08? Would have been right after Herm came here...

Sorter · 01-09-2013, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Must be a good coach if four different HC's kept him with the Jets. How good were his defenses from 06-08? Would have been right after Herm came here...

IIRC, they let Cassel through for 400+ against them...so...

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-09-2013, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Must be a good coach if four different HC's kept him with the Jets. How good were his defenses from 06-08? Would have been right after Herm came here...

http://forums.jetnation.com/topic/103604-bob-sutton/

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Originally Posted by T0mShane

When Sutton was our defensive coordinator, he got steamrolled to the point that he expected to be fired at the end of the season (if you remember his end-of-season interviews). Besides, you cannot import discipline. It has to come from the top and it has to be consistent. Allegedly, Henry Ellard and Schottenheimer tried to exert discipline upon Santonio's head during the Miami debacle. How'd that work out? Ellard and Schott were shown the door while Holmes was immediately praised for his "competitiveness" and subsequently handed a check for $15 mil.

This isn't to say that keeping Sutton around is a problem. Really, who cares? He's an old hand that Rex likes. But, if your point is that Sutton was promoted to play Good Cop/Bad Cop, I think you're kidding yourself.

booger · 01-09-2013, 02:51 AM

Not being mentioned a lot is special teams. This team hasn't really had a good special teams coach since Ganz Jr on DV's staff. Priefer was an assistant st's coach who Herm gave his first chance to be the lead man. Same thing with Haley giving that shot to kicking guru Steve Hoffman. Tom McMahon is just awful. Bobby April coming over from the Eagles would be a really good hire

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-09-2013, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by booger

Not being mentioned a lot is special teams. This team hasn't really had a good special teams coach since Ganz Jr on DV's staff. Priefer was an assistant st's coach who Herm gave his first chance to be the lead man. Same thing with Haley giving that shot to kicking guru Steve Hoffman. Tom McMahon is just awful. Bobby April coming over from the Eagles would be a really good hire

Early rumors were that Bobby April was the guy, I thought?

If Dorsey's hired, I can't see how Kevin Greene wouldn't get a DC interview, unless he's completely worthless.

**Rausch** · 01-09-2013, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Early rumors were that Bobby April was the guy, I thought?

If Dorsey's hired, I can't see how Kevin Greene wouldn't get a DC interview, unless he's completely worthless.

I loved Greene. Dude was a ****ing beast.

I really haven't followed him as a coach so I don't know if he's ready for that role but I'd love to have him on the staff...

booger · 01-09-2013, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Early rumors were that Bobby April was the guy, I thought?

If Dorsey's hired, I can't see how Kevin Greene wouldn't get a DC interview, unless he's completely worthless.

Yea they were and that's what I'm saying...That would be great if true.

Someone up and coming and never having had called plays will benefit greatly from Thomas and Gibbs. I see that as probable with Dorsey's coming aboard(hopefully) I also see him seeing the talent that is here and the fact it is for sure Tamba, DJ, and Houston's best defense and there are some fatties to eat some space up front. I'd be on board with Greene. DL hire will be interesting too. Don't know too much what that crowd of coaches looks like

**Rausch** · 01-09-2013, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by booger

Yea they were and that's what I'm saying...That would be great if true.

Someone up and coming and never having had called plays will benefit greatly from Thomas and Gibbs. I see that as probable with Dorsey's coming aboard(hopefully) I also see him seeing the talent that is here and the fact it is for sure Tamba, DJ, and Houston's best defense and there are some fatties to eat some space up front. I'd be on board with Greene. DL hire will be interesting too. Don't know too much what that crowd of coaches looks like

Greene would no doubt run an attacking 3-4...

booger · 01-09-2013, 03:10 AM

What's the latest on Juan Castillo?

booger · 01-09-2013, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Greene would no doubt run an attacking 3-4...

He would have invaluable help in Thomas and Gibbs as far as game planning goes too. Those 2 would make it much less risky. There are 3 coaches on that staff that Dorsey would have great insight to knowing how they could handle it. Winston Moss and Darren Perry the other two. Even if its a similar style to what the Jets and ravens run with stacking a couple 325 plus DT's together with a stout and lengthy 300 lb DE up front doing some 2 gap but with some flexability within the scheme I would love it. We got some beef in Powe/Poe and stoutness of Toribio to run something similiar

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01-09-2013, 01:35 AM	#4
booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $1118550	I just hope its true for the fact it looks like the talk of him considering staying with the 34 isn't just lip service. Sutton has experience in the 2 gap 34 and of course Ryan's multi front scheme __________________ 2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
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01-09-2013, 02:16 AM	#5
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01-09-2013, 02:51 AM	#9
booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $1118550	Not being mentioned a lot is special teams. This team hasn't really had a good special teams coach since Ganz Jr on DV's staff. Priefer was an assistant st's coach who Herm gave his first chance to be the lead man. Same thing with Haley giving that shot to kicking guru Steve Hoffman. Tom McMahon is just awful. Bobby April coming over from the Eagles would be a really good hire __________________ 2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
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01-09-2013, 03:10 AM	#14
booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $1118550	What's the latest on Juan Castillo? __________________ 2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
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