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Old 01-21-2013, 10:56 PM   #1
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I'm glad she said that. It had to be said i'm tired of stabby getting a pass. We need to call out the losers of life.
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:48 PM   #2
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I'm glad she said that. It had to be said i'm tired of stabby getting a pass. We need to call out the losers of life.
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Every time he praises God in his interviews, it's so transparently obvious that it's a manipulative publicity stunt. It's a shame.

Not being religious myself, I've always balked at anyone using their camera time from sporting successes to proselytize. But I've always respected most of them as honest people. Kurt Warner was the first one that felt like he was proselytizing when he was on camera. But that guy was sincere. He was a high character guy.

Ray Lewis is a fraud now and a garbage human being for what he did and for not taking ownership and responsibility for actions.

Screw him.
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Old 01-22-2013, 07:31 AM   #3
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Every time he praises God in his interviews, it's so transparently obvious that it's a manipulative publicity stunt. It's a shame.

Not being religious myself, I've always balked at anyone using their camera time from sporting successes to proselytize. But I've always respected most of them as honest people. Kurt Warner was the first one that felt like he was proselytizing when he was on camera. But that guy was sincere. He was a high character guy.

Ray Lewis is a fraud now and a garbage human being for what he did and for not taking ownership and responsibility for actions.

Screw him.
And even Warner realized less was more and he was a better representative of God/religion by his actions not his shallow words. I hated the guy for throwing his crap in our faces for the longest time. Until I saw he actually walked his talk even as he was saying less and less.

Lewis? Once a POS always a POS, IMO.
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:40 PM   #4
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"Proud of my husband and the Pats," Burns Welker wrote. "By the way, if anyone is bored, please go to Ray Lewis' Wikipedia page. 6 kids, 4 wives. Acquitted for murder. Paid a family off. Yay. What a hall of fame player! A true role model!"



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That's funny. I was just reading about that on his Wikipage today.

I've always given Ray the OJ judgement. Mentioned it to someone who was a Ravens fan and he was shocked at my opinion - that Ray got away with murder or covering up a murder. So was looking it up to make sure I wasn't missing any details. Nope. Still skated by covering up a murder. And in doing so, surely helped get his buddies off as well.

Disgusting human being. And an all around phoney and fraud. Good for her for calling him out and and unfortunate that her remarks lead the media to calling her own character into question rather than to the media reminding the public about the true nature of Ray's character.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:40 AM   #5
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its absolutely amazing how this guy was an absolute thug and hated in the 90s

and somehow in the 2000s was able to use the media, technology, the league, video games, you name it to rebuild his image and his own brand and make him one the faces/role models of the NFL for a young generation

it's like the 1990s never happened and that era of the NFL never existed lol. Whoever Ray Lewis's PR guy is over the years is a smart person
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:44 PM   #6
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its absolutely amazing how this guy was an absolute thug and hated in the 90s

and somehow in the 2000s was able to use the media, technology, the league, video games, you name it to rebuild his image and his own brand and make him one the faces/role models of the NFL for a young generation

it's like the 1990s never happened and that era of the NFL never existed lol. Whoever Ray Lewis's PR guy is over the years is a smart person
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:07 PM   #7
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its absolutely amazing how this guy was an absolute thug and hated in the 90s

and somehow in the 2000s was able to use the media, technology, the league, video games, you name it to rebuild his image and his own brand and make him one the faces/role models of the NFL for a young generation

it's like the 1990s never happened and that era of the NFL never existed lol. Whoever Ray Lewis's PR guy is over the years is a smart person
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:03 AM   #8
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I wonder how many people actually know the story surrounding those murders. Lewis didn't kill anyone, and by the majority of witness accounts, he was trying to avoid any confrontation at all.

Even the guys that were charged with the murders were aquitted despite Lewis testifying against them.
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:31 AM   #9
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I wonder how many people actually know the story surrounding those murders. Lewis didn't kill anyone, and by the majority of witness accounts, he was trying to avoid any confrontation at all.

Even the guys that were charged with the murders were aquitted despite Lewis testifying against them.
Even though Ray wasn't anywhere near the murders, they still felt the need to dispose of his white suit so well it has never been found, obstruct justice at every turn, and pay the families of the victims. I don't care what the official verdict was. I know an innocent man has nothing to hide and that a millionaire many times over has ways to manipulate legal proceedings. All that said, I respect the man's abilities on the field. Incredible player, leader, and motivator. Annoying as hell but I don't think anybody can dispute his abilities. I'm not suggesting he plunged knives into the dead men. I'm just saying, he was a whole lot more involved than any official account we've been told. People don't throw away $3000 suits for no reason. It's pretty obvious there was blood evidence on that thing. Doesn't make him a murderer but it does leave a lot of unanswered questions.
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Even though Ray wasn't anywhere near the murders, they still felt the need to dispose of his white suit so well it has never been found, obstruct justice at every turn, and pay the families of the victims. I don't care what the official verdict was. I know an innocent man has nothing to hide and that a millionaire many times over has ways to manipulate legal proceedings. All that said, I respect the man's abilities on the field. Incredible player, leader, and motivator. Annoying as hell but I don't think anybody can dispute his abilities. I'm not suggesting he plunged knives into the dead men. I'm just saying, he was a whole lot more involved than any official account we've been told. People don't throw away $3000 suits for no reason. It's pretty obvious there was blood evidence on that thing. Doesn't make him a murderer but it does leave a lot of unanswered questions.
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Hey she was just posting something that was true and reminding everyone that having 6 kids with 4 wifes and having something strongly to do with killing someone is not good.

I have zero problems with her reminding everyone about it.

He reminds us everytime he plays how he is blessed from god over and over, she should be able to point this out.

good for her, its good to see people take stands like that.
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Hey she was just posting something that was true and reminding everyone that having 6 kids with 4 wifes and having something strongly to do with killing someone is not good.

I have zero problems with her reminding everyone about it.

He reminds us everytime he plays how he is blessed from god over and over, she should be able to point this out.

good for her, its good to see people take stands like that.
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Even though Ray wasn't anywhere near the murders, they still felt the need to dispose of his white suit so well it has never been found, obstruct justice at every turn, and pay the families of the victims. I don't care what the official verdict was. I know an innocent man has nothing to hide and that a millionaire many times over has ways to manipulate legal proceedings. All that said, I respect the man's abilities on the field. Incredible player, leader, and motivator. Annoying as hell but I don't think anybody can dispute his abilities. I'm not suggesting he plunged knives into the dead men. I'm just saying, he was a whole lot more involved than any official account we've been told. People don't throw away $3000 suits for no reason. It's pretty obvious there was blood evidence on that thing. Doesn't make him a murderer but it does leave a lot of unanswered questions.
He was guilty of obstruction, and punished accordingly. Did he dispose of the suit? Clearly. But anyone who has actually looked at the facts of the entire court proceedings can see that he's guilty of being with two bad guys, and trying to save his own ass. There's nothing to suggest he approved of or had a hand in what happened. Eyewitness testimony suggests just the opposite. People seem to have this notion that he was complicit in what when on that night. All he is guilty of is poor judgement after the fact. Something that a lot of people might do in a similar situation, with how much hr stood to lose.

I don't consider settling civil suits an indication of anything other than a lawyer advising him of the safest solution.

People are entitled to their opinion. But anyone calling him a murderer is ignorant of the facts, or being intentionally obnoxious.
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He was guilty of obstruction, and punished accordingly. Did he dispose of the suit? Clearly. But anyone who has actually looked at the facts of the entire court proceedings can see that he's guilty of being with two bad guys, and trying to save his own ass. There's nothing to suggest he approved of or had a hand in what happened. Eyewitness testimony suggests just the opposite. People seem to have this notion that he was complicit in what when on that night. All he is guilty of is poor judgement after the fact. Something that a lot of people might do in a similar situation, with how much hr stood to lose.

I don't consider settling civil suits an indication of anything other than a lawyer advising him of the safest solution.

People are entitled to their opinion. But anyone calling him a murderer is ignorant of the facts, or being intentionally obnoxious.


Tell that to the team mate Michael Irvin stabbed in the neck, almost killing him, all for getting his haircut before Irvin. Irvin paid him and his family over a million dollars to keep quiet about it.

A lot of these guys are criminals, grown up in bad parts of town with criminal records. Hey waddaya know...both went to ThugU. They must have classes there on how to avoid getting locked away in the big house.
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He was guilty of obstruction, and punished accordingly. Did he dispose of the suit? Clearly. But anyone who has actually looked at the facts of the entire court proceedings can see that he's guilty of being with two bad guys, and trying to save his own ass. There's nothing to suggest he approved of or had a hand in what happened. Eyewitness testimony suggests just the opposite. People seem to have this notion that he was complicit in what when on that night. All he is guilty of is poor judgement after the fact. Something that a lot of people might do in a similar situation, with how much hr stood to lose.

I don't consider settling civil suits an indication of anything other than a lawyer advising him of the safest solution.

People are entitled to their opinion. But anyone calling him a murderer is ignorant of the facts, or being intentionally obnoxious.
As our parents and grandparents taught us 'you are who the people you hang around with' and I have a hard time believing Ray was not a leader among his friends. He knew better and got away with a whole lot more. BTW $$$$ is a fact in this case and if you have it, it goes a loooooooooooong way in covering up sh**. Just ask OJ
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