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View Poll Results: What is the trajectory of American Civilization?
We're ascending and I think we're a long way from our peak. 31 16.76%
We're ascending, but we will peak within the next two or three generations? 4 2.16%
We're in a stable state and likely won't decline. 10 5.41%
We're in a stable state but are headed toward decline. 34 18.38%
We peaked in the last two or three generations, and we're descending. 95 51.35%
We've pretty much been descending since Plymouth Rock. Our ruin is imminent. 9 4.86%
I don't really following the grand sweep of history. 2 1.08%
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Old 04-24-2014, 01:55 PM   #1
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I'd guess our peak was somewhere in the 60's as far as "empires" go...
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Old 04-24-2014, 08:42 PM   #2
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I'd guess our peak was somewhere in the 60's as far as "empires" go...
Disagree. But that was the beginning of our ascent.
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Old 04-24-2014, 02:20 PM   #3
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Old 04-24-2014, 06:52 PM   #4
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I guess I am an optimist. I think we are improving every single decade, every single year, every single day.

I cannot think of a time in history where we have been in a better overall position than we are right now.- for the largest amount of people.

I think a lot of people do not have a concept of how much disparity there was in our past. Sure we had rich people and middle class, but we had vast swaths of abject poverty too.

We have brought the low end of our spectrum up, an I think that is an achievement that benefits us all. More and more segments of our society are now able to join the middle class and that benefits us all.

And I'm an old fat rich white guy.
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Old 04-24-2014, 06:59 PM   #5
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I guess I am an optimist. I think we are improving every single decade, every single year, every single day.

I cannot think of a time in history where we have been in a better overall position than we are right now.- for the largest amount of people.

I think a lot of people do not have a concept of how much disparity there was in our past. Sure we had rich people and middle class, but we had vast swaths of abject poverty too.

We have brought the low end of our spectrum up, an I think that is an achievement that benefits us all. More and more segments of our society are now able to join the middle class and that benefits us all.

And I'm an old fat rich white guy.
That's hot.
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Old 04-24-2014, 07:03 PM   #6
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That's hot.
And we are living in the golden age of craft beer availability.

Some people say they want to "take America back" Back to where and when?

I am not giving up my Espresso Oak Aged Yeti Imperial Stout!!!!
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Old 04-24-2014, 07:34 PM   #7
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That's hot.
Be honest. It was the "rich" part, wasn't it?
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Old 04-24-2014, 07:40 PM   #8
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Be honest. It was the "rich" part, wasn't it?
Rich (like beauty) isn't nearly as attractive as charm.

Did I sound sincere? I typed that a few times in the mirror.
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Old 04-24-2014, 07:52 PM   #9
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Rich (like beauty) isn't nearly as attractive as charm.

Did I sound sincere? I typed that a few times in the mirror.
If true of all women, this is bad news. I at least have a fighting shot at being labeled rich.
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Old 04-24-2014, 08:30 PM   #10
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I'd wager that the results of this poll would have looked the same 100 years ago and would still look the same 100 years from now.
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I'd wager that the results of this poll would have looked the same 100 years ago and would still look the same 100 years from now.
I would not bet against you. (and good to 'see' you. I am wiping out my yearly allotment of 25 posts in this thread tonight)
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We haven't fully technologized (a word I just invented) our society yet.

We're getting there. I'd say we're 60-65 percent there. A lot of the old infrastructure needs to be replaced.

When we get to 100 percent, we'll experience a period of great success. Our society will be almost Utopian.

Then the decline will begin. Almost imperceptibly. Gradually. At some point it will all come crashing down. Perhaps because of war. Civil war, even.

It'll be cool.
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Old 04-24-2014, 08:41 PM   #13
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I'm guessing the next 50 years are going to be badass. About 2050 everything is going to be super ****ing awesome.

From 2050-2125 or so we will have reached the height of our success as a nation.

Then something really bad will happen. Probably some asshole with a super weapon or something, plunging us back into a dark age (relatively speaking).

I plan to die about 2075 so all good with me.
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That's assuming we can't transfer human brains into robot bodies by then. If that happens I'm sticking around as a cyborg.
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