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Yeah, and Bryant too like Staylor suggested. Close. Though Bryant is bigger.
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Conley is smart and apparently doesn't have a work ethic issue
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They measure explosion and quick twitch. Without those things a guy isn't going to be quick of the line. Whatever though.
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You can argue for lower body explosion.....but quick twitch? Not even close.
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Clearly a quick twitch athlete has his vertical suggests.
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Yeah one guy who's vertical doesn't match his quicks is the end all be all of the conversation. Why do you think they do those tests for?
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I can't understand why anyone is comparing Conley to Baldwin.
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I like Wilson, and I think he can play outside, but I'd like to see him more in the slot when Conley takes over outside.
Wilson is really good at cutting and getting separation in short areas.
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But the fact that Conley had a faster 10 yard split than Cooper perfectly demonstrates the point that I think we're both trying to make. If ANYONE tries to argue that Conley has as much functional quickness as Cooper, they're simply watching the wrong sport. It's not even close. But the way Cooper gets his speed is much different and in the end, more useful for most things. Quickness isn't just about how much ground you cover while running straight; it's about how quickly you stop, how you stop, how you turn, how you carry your speed through cuts, etc... Giving me Conley's 10 yard split doesn't tell me how functionally quick he is - it just tells me that the dude has a really long stride. That's where just watching him comes into play. Conley shouldn't expected to be anywhere near Cooper, stopwatches be damned. And in the end, your eyes definitely confirm that.
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Different tests for different things. Vertical is usually indicative of lower body explosion. Cone drill is a much better test for quickness.
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By all accounts, that separates him from Baldwin, making any comparison moot. |
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The comparison is brought up because Phil claims that leaping ability correlates to a player's shiftyness.
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He didn't have the quickness to get open against NFL DB's. He ran like goofy TE.
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