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Old 04-16-2005, 07:33 PM  
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I Hate Cops!!!!

Shortly before noon I was driving in downtown Claremore, Ok when the flashing lights come on behind me. The first thing the cop asks is if I knew why he stopped me. I said no. He said defective exhaust system. (My van doesn't smoke at all and isn't at all loud.) In the squad car he runs my tag and finds nothing amiss. He gives me a warning ticket for defective exhaust and never says a word about my exhaust. He says I am free to go but he wants to ask me another question. Do I have any drugs, alcohol, guns, knives or bombs in the van. I say no. He says do I mind if he checks. I say he has no reason to search my van so he calls for a drug dog crew. He says my eyes are bloodshot so I must be doing drugs. Now I not free to go all of a sudden. The drug dog doesn't hit on the van so the dickhead finally lets me go. This is outrageous bullshit. From a bogus defective exhaust warning to searches and drug dogs because he doesn't like the looks of my eyes. Where is this shit going to end?
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Old 04-16-2005, 10:47 PM   #91
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And I stated that very early in this thread, but in most states....the determining factor of whether a search warrant is required is does the officer have sufficient grounds for a declaration of "reasonable suspicion." If so, he doesn't need a search warrant in most states.

The anecdote you cite, clearly illustrates a person who knows the precise "process" and plays their hand accordingly. A cop who isn't very confident in their "reasonable suspicion" with such a person, will know he needs to call of the dogs. With a less sophisticated, knowledgable, or experinced person, he can be more aggressive....which will often lead to discovery of something illegal, which validates his "reasonable suspicion." There are few cases where citizens are actually willing to go to court to have a cop proven "wrong" in a case like this....it just isn't worth it.

Unless you are an ardent member of the ACLU, or have something to hide.

I guess I missed your caveat, sorry.
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Old 04-16-2005, 10:50 PM   #92
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Do you realize how often anyone disagrees with you, you very quickly resort to the "you are an idiot" or some similar insult....even when you are wrong (as you are in this case), it's the other guy who's an idiot....

sheeeshhhh, kotter...

that's how we feel about you...
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Old 04-16-2005, 10:50 PM   #93
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You may wish to disregard my information, but I know it was correct 15 years ago. I don't know if it is pertinent in your state nor if it is any longer in Iowa, but that's what the law was when I was learning and evading the po-po.
Dude, you spell words wrong on a message board. I can't believe you are even smart enough to dress yourself in the mornings.
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Old 04-16-2005, 10:51 PM   #94
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Well the fact that it depends on the state, might be the reason.
Hey, Jim, I really appreciate this. That cop told me I was free to go and then quickly said he wanted to ask me another question. Very tricky, now I know just to get out of the car and go when he says that. He was clearly trying to trick me into staying. I won't stay again.
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Old 04-16-2005, 10:52 PM   #95
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sheeeshhhh, kotter...

that's how we feel about you...
No, no...I'm more selective and indirect with my pejoratives: I usually go with extremist, radical, elitist, arrogant, liberal, or condescending...those aren't as distasteful as a direct insult.
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Old 04-16-2005, 10:53 PM   #96
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Dude, you are old. The English language evolves.....anymore didn't USE to be a word back in the 1800s, but today it's accepted a "sub-standard" or "slang" check most any dictionary....that and he's not typin' his disertation.

Times have moved past you, old man.
oh, wait a minute there sonny...

anymore is not a word...






is it? *feeling passed by*
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Old 04-16-2005, 10:55 PM   #97
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The fact that you go so far out of your way to insult other people's intelligence on such a consistant basis has always shown how insecure you are about your own intelligence and your education. You have always been so curious why I say that yet you show it to be true time after time.

This is a message board, I am not interested in taking time to worry about syntax and spelling. I am a great student and do fine in writing intensive courses.

But, maybe you are on to something. Maybe if I work harder I can become a grouchy old man that sits around and smokes pot; bitter and alone.
wait a minute...

speaking on behalf of grouchy old men everywhere and anymore, smoking pot does not make you sit around...

well, maby a little...
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Old 04-16-2005, 10:58 PM   #98
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oh, wait a minute there sonny...

anymore is not a word...


is it? *feeling passed by*
http://www.merriamwebster.com/cgi-bi...ary&va=anymore

At least you are trying to keep up, and you think "young"....heh.

One entry found for anymore.


Main Entry: any·more
Pronunciation: "e-nE-'mOr, -'mor
Function: adverb
1 : any longer
2 : at the present time : NOW

usage Although both anymore and any more are found in written use, in the 20th century anymore is the more common styling. Anymore is regularly used in negative , interrogative , and conditional contexts and in certain positive constructions . In many regions of the U.S. the use of anymore in sense 2 is quite common in positive constructions, especially in speech . The positive use appears to have been of Midland origin, but it is now reported to be widespread in all speech areas of the U.S. except New England
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Old 04-16-2005, 11:00 PM   #99
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Skip - isn't 9:30 your normal bedtime? You need to get some rest - especially after the heart attack you experienced today.
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You may wish to disregard my information, but I know it was correct 15 years ago. I don't know if it is pertinent in your state nor if it is any longer in Iowa, but that's what the law was when I was learning and evading the po-po.
After reading this post very carefully, I have concluded that you don't know jack shit. Who fuc*ing cares what was pertinent 15 years ago? And who cares anything about Iowa? Consider your opinion disregarded.
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Old 04-16-2005, 11:01 PM   #101
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Old 04-16-2005, 11:01 PM   #102
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I think my out of state tag attracted him


DING! DING! DING!


Skip, if I were you, I'd get the tag replaced. I've heard by numerous people that OK law enforcement keys on out of state tags and that they tend to be a bit more lenient on OK tags. Several of the guys in the church told me to keep the speedometer at or below the limit until I got my tags changed out. Now, don't expect that OK tag to get you out of trouble, but it might help a bit.
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Old 04-16-2005, 11:02 PM   #103
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Dude, you spell words wrong on a message board. I can't believe you are even smart enough to dress yourself in the mornings.
I have a lot of help with that. She also makes sure my penis tastes nice before I leave for a long day on the job.
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I have a lot of help with that. She also makes sure my penis tastes nice before I leave for a long day on the job.
Nobody notices your penis smells like morning breath?
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I have a lot of help with that. She also makes sure my penis tastes nice before I leave for a long day on the job.
This can be read two ways, one is funnier than the other. Leaving it up to the imagination.
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