NFL Draft Your Draft: first three rounds. - Page 7

Direckshun · 12-03-2008, 01:00 AM

Try to keep it relatively realistic.

What are your three picks. Assume that we have the #5 spot in the Draft, just to be conservative.

Feel free to explain your picks.

suds79 · 12-03-2008, 12:24 PM

I'll give it a shot.

We can't avoid FA forever.

So my vote would be to sign Suggs or Peppers if possible. Leaving our pass rush up for a rookie to solve scares me. I'm not against Orakpo. I like the kid. I just think asking him to get 10+ sacks in his rookie year (which is what we need from the RDE spot) is asking too much.

1st - Rey Maualuga. Orakpo would be okay also. Then you'd need a FA MLB. I'm assuming Stafford is gone. If Stafford is there, take him. You don't pass on franchise QBs.

2nd - LSU - OG - Herman Johnson. 2nd best Guard out there and Duke Robinson will be long gone. I think Brandon Spikes will be gone also. I don't think Herman makes it to the 3rd. Our right side of the line is terrible and he'd add some much needed size & strength.

3 - Don't know yet. I feel sick to my stomach saying this but I still think we need more size at DT. Need some run stuffers. Could go another LBer also.

**SAUTO** · 12-03-2008, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Who's value on the open market right now is a 3rd or 4th round pick, at best.

So, why spend that pick on a 30 year old with issues, when you can use that pick on a 22 year old?

It amazes me how much people here overvalue the RB and TE position...

Probably because those 2 positions have been our offensive "glamour" positions for as long as most of us have been alive

milkman · 12-03-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Probably because those 2 positions have been our offensive "glamour" positions for as long as most of us have been alive

So you're only 12 years old?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-03-2008, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

So you're only 12 years old?

**SAUTO** · 12-03-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

So you're only 12 years old?

no, who would you say were our glamour players before that?

**SAUTO** · 12-03-2008, 12:47 PM

got a Qb in mind? montana? old when he got here

Kylo Ren · 12-03-2008, 01:04 PM

The Chiefs need RT, DE, QB, DT, G, FB, probably in that order.

If Thiggy plays well and is expected to be the starter in '09.......

1st round - RT or DE
2nd round - DE or G
3rd round - QB

milkman · 12-03-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

no, who would you say were our glamour players before that?

It was a joke, that just went right over your head.

ChiefsCountry · 12-03-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by John_Wayne

The Chiefs need RT, DE, QB, DT, G, FB, probably in that order.

If Thiggy plays well and is expected to be the starter in '09.......

1st round - RT or DE
2nd round - DE or G
3rd round - QB

You DO NOT DRAFT A RT IN THE FIRST ROUND. People get this in your head especially in the top 10, and no way in hell in the top 5.

milkman · 12-03-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

You DO NOT DRAFT A RT IN THE FIRST ROUND. People get this in your head especially in the top 10, and no way in hell in the top 5.

It's like talking to brick walls.

**The Franchise** · 12-03-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

It's like talking to brick walls.

These are usually the same people who think we can trade down in the 1st round three times. It's like they think everyone will just give us their picks because they feel sorry for us.

milkman · 12-03-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

These are usually the same people who think we can trade down in the 1st round three times. It's like they think everyone will just give us their picks because they feel sorry for us.

Wait!

What are you saying?

I was going to try to trade down three times in the first to stockpile picks and draft Brandon Spikes at about 24.

Are you saying I won't be able to that.

Take it back!!!

Alphaman · 12-03-2008, 01:54 PM

To answer this I have to take a guess at what happens with picks 1 through 4. I'll say they go like this:

1) Detroit - Bradford QB Oklahoma
2) Oakland - Crabtree WR Texas Tech (Trades up with Cincy to get WR)
3) St. Louis - Smith OT Alabama
4) Cincy - Jenkins CB Ohio State
5) KC - Stafford QB Georgia

KC Draft
1) Stafford QB Georgia
2) Loadholt OT Oklahoma
3) Witherspoon OLB Missouri

A couple of notes:

a) I don't think KC drafts down at #5. I think we end up with 3 wins max and draft at #3.

b) If we draft at #3, I think we can trade down with someone wanting to get an OT or CB or perhaps Crabtree.

c) I don't really like Stafford at #5, but I don't think we can pass him up there. I'd rather move back to around #8 and take him there.

d) I'm hoping we get a shot at Peppers in the offseason. However, I'm thinking he gets franchised by Carolina

e) Same with Vilma. I don't think New Orleans will resign him because it would cost them their 1st round pick. I'm hoping we throw a boat load of money at him to come to KC.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-03-2008, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ice 101

You are either being dishonest, or you don't know what you are talking about

They drafted Tuck when Osi was unknown.
They drafted Kiwi when Tuck was unknown.

They weren't just investing in DEs because they had an embarrassment of riches, it was a legitimate need and they happened to hit on every pick.

Strahan was a pro bowler as the DE#1
Umienyora had a strong campaign in 2004 and then had an unbelievable season in 2005 in which he racked up 14.5 sacks. I think I know what I'm talking about when I say a 14.5 sack DE was a legit starting DE.

And Tuck played quite a bit of snaps his rookie season. Racked up a pretty decent 30 tackles in 2005. That's really good for a rotational DE.

It's not being dishonest. The Giants had 2 stud DEs at the time. They had a strong rotational player in the pipeline. And they used a 1st rounder on a 4th DE.

Yes, that can be justified as being a preparation for Strahan's eventual retirement, but it goes to show that you simply cannot draft enough DEs. Most people attribute their strong depth at DE to be the main reason the Giants won the Super Bowl.

Alphaman · 12-03-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

You DO NOT DRAFT A RT IN THE FIRST ROUND. People get this in your head especially in the top 10, and no way in hell in the top 5.

If we draft at #5 and the top 4 picks are Bradford, Stafford, Crabtree and Jenkins, the top 2 guys left on the board would be OTs. I would have no problem taking one them (Smith or Oher) and plugging him in at RT. Bookend tackles for years to come is worth using a top 5 pick even if it goes against the normal grain.

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suds79 MVP Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10005036	I'll give it a shot. We can't avoid FA forever. So my vote would be to sign Suggs or Peppers if possible. Leaving our pass rush up for a rookie to solve scares me. I'm not against Orakpo. I like the kid. I just think asking him to get 10+ sacks in his rookie year (which is what we need from the RDE spot) is asking too much. 1st - Rey Maualuga. Orakpo would be okay also. Then you'd need a FA MLB. I'm assuming Stafford is gone. If Stafford is there, take him. You don't pass on franchise QBs. 2nd - LSU - OG - Herman Johnson. 2nd best Guard out there and Duke Robinson will be long gone. I think Brandon Spikes will be gone also. I don't think Herman makes it to the 3rd. Our right side of the line is terrible and he'd add some much needed size & strength. 3 - Don't know yet. I feel sick to my stomach saying this but I still think we need more size at DT. Need some run stuffers. Could go another LBer also.
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Alphaman Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Austin, TX, USA Casino cash: $10004900	To answer this I have to take a guess at what happens with picks 1 through 4. I'll say they go like this: 1) Detroit - Bradford QB Oklahoma 2) Oakland - Crabtree WR Texas Tech (Trades up with Cincy to get WR) 3) St. Louis - Smith OT Alabama 4) Cincy - Jenkins CB Ohio State 5) KC - Stafford QB Georgia KC Draft 1) Stafford QB Georgia 2) Loadholt OT Oklahoma 3) Witherspoon OLB Missouri A couple of notes: a) I don't think KC drafts down at #5. I think we end up with 3 wins max and draft at #3. b) If we draft at #3, I think we can trade down with someone wanting to get an OT or CB or perhaps Crabtree. c) I don't really like Stafford at #5, but I don't think we can pass him up there. I'd rather move back to around #8 and take him there. d) I'm hoping we get a shot at Peppers in the offseason. However, I'm thinking he gets franchised by Carolina e) Same with Vilma. I don't think New Orleans will resign him because it would cost them their 1st round pick. I'm hoping we throw a boat load of money at him to come to KC.
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