The Pioli Watch Thread

[cardken]

I'm hijacking the thread starter to use for an "updates" area. Sorry cardken. Here are a few recent updates:

Last updated 1/13/09 2:30pm CDT (final update)

Originally Posted by Basileus777

New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli has agreed to become head of football operations for the Kansas City Chiefs, two NFL sources confirmed to ESPN's Michael Smith.
The vice president for player personnel at New England, Pioli, 43, is close to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and has been with the Patriots for nine years. Pioli would find a warm welcome in Kansas City. At the last Chiefs' home game, shortly after the embattled Carl Peterson resigned after 20 years as president, general manager and CEO, several signs were spotted in the crowd proclaiming, "We want Pioli." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by milkman

I was under the impression, perhaps mistaken, that while his siblings all hold equal shares, they agreed to give Clark complete control because they have no real interest in the team, other than the money they can make from it.

Same here.

[Sully]

Originally Posted by unothadeal

What's a ZJ?

If you've gotta ask, you can't afford it.

[KC kid]

CHIEFS CHASING PIOLI, TOO
Posted by Mike Florio on December 31, 2008, 5:47 p.m.
As Pats V.P. of player personnel Scott Pioli interviews with the Cleveland Browns, the Kansas City Chiefs reportedly have entered the mix.

Mike Reiss of the Boston Globe reports that the Chiefs have requested and received permission to interview Pioli for the team’s vacant G.M. job.

Earlier this week, ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reported that the Chiefs are interested in Pioli, Ravens director of pro personnel George Kokinis, Ravens director of college scouting Eric DeCosta, Colts assistant G.M. Chris Polian, and possibly former Browns G.M. Phil Savage.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Delano

Why would you say KC over Cleveland?

Cleveland has more pieces in place, IMO. Better players at more positions.

If I were a GM I would rather start with a blank slate and mold the football team to my vision and the vision of my coaches.

The Chiefs have a VERY strong base with all the young talent they've brought in. The only players not in place are the most important ones "game changers". If I were a GM I'd want to pick MY QB, MY DEs. Not what I get stuck with b/c of big contracts.

[aturnis]

Not to mention the Chiefs have just as many Pro Bowlers as the Browns.

[teedubya]

In theory, all of these people sound like a qualified GM. Savage has put together great talent, but Crennel is not a good head coach.

The people that Hunt is interested in, aren't real reaches IMO.

[Fritz88]

With all these recent changes in the league, it is going to be really tough to get him.

[JuicesFlowing]

Originally Posted by Laz

just forget about Pioli ..... too much competition for us to get him.


since when have the chiefs ever won ANY KIND of competition

Exactly. If it sounds too good to be true, then it is (with the Chiefs).

[Frankie]

Pioli, Polian, DeCosta, Colbert, who cares? I have no proof that one is better than the others and neither does anybody else here.

[blueballs]

Originally Posted by Frankie

Pioli, Polian, DeCosta, Colbert, who cares? I have no proof that one is better than the others and neither does anybody else here.

exactly
the buzz is there is more good men out there
than jobs

[Sully]

Originally Posted by Laz

since when have the chiefs ever won ANY KIND of competition

They won that race to the podium to draft Ryan Sims.


...never mind...

[DT58HOF]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Pioli is NOT coming to KC. Period.

He wants total control, and Clark has gone on record MANY times to say that the football side and the business side would be run by two separate people.

Denny Thum has been with the organization for over 30 years, pre-Carl, and is one of the best cap guys out there. Clark isn't going to throw him to the curb over some guy that has been carried most of his career by someone else.

He's not coming here.

Get the **** over it.

best cap guys? you mean like good at taking orders from Clark?
Clark: Save me some money damn it
Thum: How much?
Clark: alot
Thum: Hows 30 million under cap?
Clark: Great let's go to the country club.
Thum: free agencey is coming, i should be working
Clark: we're not spending any money, Hell we're the chiefs we suck noone wants to come here to play unless they are like 60 years old and just want a paycheck like Ty Law or Donnie Edwards.
Thum: well now what?
Clark: I got a great BJ last night
Thum: What was his name?
Clark: Herm but he should shave them stubbles

[blueballs]

Originally Posted by DT58HOF

best cap guys? you mean like good at taking orders from Clark?
Clark: Save me some money damn it
Thum: How much?
Clark: alot
Thum: Hows 30 million under cap?
Clark: Great let's go to the country club.
Thum: free agencey is coming, i should be working
Clark: we're not spending any money, Hell we're the chiefs we suck noone wants to come here to play unless they are like 60 years old and just want a paycheck like Ty Law or Donnie Edwards.
Thum: well now what?
Clark: I got a great BJ last night
Thum: What was his name?
Clark: Herm but he should shave them stubbles

Hamas being Hamas/please

[1ChiefsDan]

Originally Posted by milkman

You know, I hope your dumb ass doesn't have any children.

If you do, I feel sorry for those poor little bastards.

If I wasn't sitting in my recliner I would have fallen out of my chair.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Dr. Jesus

It would be interesting to hear your rationale as to why Pioli is all of a sudden some hands down, OMFG the greatest GM candidate out there. Some of you swear like Pioli is the only option. I'd rather we didn't get Pioli TBH.

How many GMs have won more Super Bowls (or been to more Super Bowls) this decade than Scott Pioli? I count zero.

How many GMs have won more playoff games than Pioli this decade (or during any decade in NFL history)? I count zero. In fact Pioli has won more playoff games with the Patriots since 2001 (14) than the Chiefs have won in their entire franchise history.

How many GMs can boast the ability to effectively blend the utilization of the draft and free agency as well as Pioli has with the Patriots, drafting the likes of Tom Brady, Dan Koppen, Matt Light, Logan Mankins, Asante Samuel, Vince Wilfork, Ty Warren, Richard Seymour, Jerod Mayo and Deion Branch, and signing/trading for impact free agents such as Rodney Harrison, Mike Vrabel, Wes Welker, Adalius Thomas, Randy Moss and Corey Dillon? I count zero.

How many GMs can say they were voted Executive of the Year 4 different times this decade by major media outlets/organizations such as The Sporting News (voted by NFL executives), SI, USA Today, Pro Football Weekly and the NFLPA? I count zero.

Scott Pioli is the cream of the crop when it comes to current GMs in this league, yet certain elements of the fanbase want the Chiefs to settle for second or third best. I don't understand why. It is that simple.