Chiefs Chiefs trade 34th pick for Cassel and Vrabel - Page 7

**chiefforlife** · 01:21 PM

Chiefs just got Cassel, ON NFLN!

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/02...with_patriots/

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The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Saturday that the club has acquired QB Matt Cassel and LB Mike Vrabel from New England in exchange for the Chiefs second-round pick (34th overall) in the 2009 NFL Draft. The agreement is contingent on both players reporting and passing their physicals.

“I have a long history with both players,” said Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. “Mike and Matt are men that I respect both personally and professionally. I look forward to having them as new members of the Chiefs family.”

KC kid · 02-28-2009, 12:08 PM

You had to know that this was coming in the opening press conference for Scott Piolo when he said and I paraphrase: There is only one Tom Brady and there is only one Matt Cassel

nychief · 02-28-2009, 12:08 PM

our qb situation is a joke... we had to add a vet, we just added a starter and I'm sure we are still going to draft a late round qb too...

We are adding building blocks..

wild1 · 02-28-2009, 12:08 PM

I hope we gave up a second. We could move back to 10-15 and get value at a position we need and recoup the second.

Basileus777 · 02-28-2009, 12:08 PM

This board hates Cassel and I've been one of his few defenders here, so naturally most people are going to hate this move. I don't really think Cassel is a franchise QB and I would probably have preffered to draft a QB at 3, but I think Cassel can be a good starting QB in this league and can live with it if it's only for a 2nd rounder.

HC_Chief · 02-28-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He takes too many sacks
He has a below average arm
He throws a crappy deep ball
He put up all his stats in about 4 games
He played with an ungodly WR tandem.

Other than that, nothing.

Whatever happened to Clark Hunt saying that if we wanted to compete for a championship we had to draft and develop our own franchise quarterback?

You need a "franchise quarterback" available in the draft. This year doesn't offer one.

Frosty · 02-28-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by warrior

Grbac part II

More like Scott Mitchell, part II.

To be honest, there was a ton of value at need at that 2nd round pick - Barwin, Unger, English, Sintim.

**Reaper16** · 02-28-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by blueballs

Cassel and Sanchez
FTW

Hmmm. Actually, that would kind of be awesome in some ways.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-28-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

I have no problem with trading down - hopefully we could get back the second round pick we traded to NE.

Teams almost never trade up into the top 3. Especially in a draft that lacks elite level talent at the top.

**SAUTO** · 02-28-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He takes too many sacks
He has a below average arm
He throws a crappy deep ball
He put up all his stats in about 4 games
He played with an ungodly WR tandem.

Other than that, nothing.

Whatever happened to Clark Hunt saying that if we wanted to compete for a championship we had to draft and develop our own franchise quarterback?

he was in his first year starting. and honestly i could never find where clark ever said draft. but thats another story

**doomy3** · 02-28-2009, 12:09 PM

Awesome. If this is for the second, I like this a lot.

Hootie · 02-28-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Who the hell are we going to draft at 3?

BJ Raji, Aaron Curry, Eugene Monroe?

Yay. We give up the #3 overall for a cover backer, a DT who is too goddamned stupid to stay academically eligible, or a left tackle when we already have one.

This is why I almost preferred we swapped 3 for 23 and picked up an extra late round pick as well...

I mean, lets say we take Curry at #3 now...what's the god damn point? That throws the draft point value out the window...you can get a guy at #23 that can have as much of an impact as Curry at #3, and you won't have to pay a cover backer $25M+ guarnteed.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-28-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Who the hell are we going to draft at 3?

BJ Raji, Aaron Curry, Eugene Monroe?

Yay. We give up the #3 overall for a cover backer, a DT who is too goddamned stupid to stay academically eligible, or a left tackle when we already have one.

If Raji is rated a top 5 calibre pick, that's a really easy choice. He's the only chance you have at a nose tackle--the most important position in a 3-4.

And again, let me reiterate that DT is the position that historically scores the lowest on the Wonderlic and that Raji struggled with academic ineligibility because he went to a tier 1, challenging school and because he had an academic advisor who didn't do his job.

**Smed1065** · 02-28-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

It just got a whole lot more difficult to envision this team winning a championship. I'd love, love, love for this to work out, for Pioli to prove me an idiot. But I have my sincere doubts about the prospect of me being an idiot.

CP, is that you?

nychief · 02-28-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae

My concern as well. I would have almost preferred to swap 1st round picks then to give up the 2nd.

I think we draft Crabtree.

RedThat · 02-28-2009, 12:09 PM

I like this move. You know why?

We've just improved the QB position #1.

Secondly, it creates competition in camp for our QB's.

There is now good depth at the QB position. Cassell comes from a winning team has started a full season and played well. AND, if we didn't give up our #3 overall pick, even better!!

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Basileus777 MVP Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Jersey Casino cash: $2285958	This board hates Cassel and I've been one of his few defenders here, so naturally most people are going to hate this move. I don't really think Cassel is a franchise QB and I would probably have preffered to draft a QB at 3, but I think Cassel can be a good starting QB in this league and can live with it if it's only for a 2nd rounder.
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doomy3 Supporter Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $3243539	Awesome. If this is for the second, I like this a lot.
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RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	I like this move. You know why? We've just improved the QB position #1. Secondly, it creates competition in camp for our QB's. There is now good depth at the QB position. Cassell comes from a winning team has started a full season and played well. AND, if we didn't give up our #3 overall pick, even better!!
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