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Old 04-10-2009, 01:11 AM  
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LT Eugene Monroe in round 1? Pioli-Haley-Groh-Albert-Monroe
Holy six degrees of separation Batman. So Charlie Casserly thinks the Chiefs are going with E. Monroe out of Virgina. I know some of you despise that idea, but I'm just repeating what he said. His theory on why Monroe makes sense:

1) Monroe has value at #3. Stud player. (Awesome Pro Day & Combine.)
2) Continuity as Albert/Monroe played together at UVA.
3) Albert/Monroe = bookends to to protect Cassel (& big $$ investment).
4) Pioli, Haley & Groh (HC at Virgina) all coached at Jets together. Groh loves Monroe. Pioli/Haley respect Groh's opinion & will listen.
5) Chiefs might be able to trade down a position or so and still get Monroe while picking up an extra pick(s).

My apologies in advance if this is a repost.
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Old 04-10-2009, 12:20 PM   #91
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Haley already said that "Branden Albert is not one of the problems on this football team."

We are not drafting a left tackle with the #3 pick overall. Period. Write it down.

The defense just set an NFL record for fewest sacks in a season, gave up 300+ yards rushing in a game and set other inept records against the run, and has possibly the worst overall front 7 in the league.

Anyone who thinks it's a good idea or ever was a good idea to take another left tackle, especially in the first round when we don't have a second round pick, is galactically stupid and should remove the ability from their body to discuss football related topics via some kind of surgery.

First off, Albert is a franchise left tackle. The guy missed most of camp, then gave up 4.5 sacks all season and owned some very good pass rushers along the way. He's only going to get better if you just leave him out there. Yet some would be ok with taking him and moving him to a lesser position at right tackle, where his footwork and initial sets would completely change and he would have a learning curve all over again? Not to mention, Albert is not a typical mauling right tackle. He might actually not be that great there for a lot of reasons.

Having bookend tackles is not required for having a great offense. The right tackle position can be handled by an average without much thought. Most Chief fans just love to find them some players they can hate on, but after about midseason McIntosh was actually pretty solid at RT once his footwork became more natural to him. I'm not saying we couldn't upgrade at RT, but switching Albert to RT is incredibly stupid. The offense was good enough at times near the end of the season to win games but the defense couldn't stop the run or pass, and some people think it wouldn't be a bad idea to take a left tackle? Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.

This team should take no less than 5 defensive players in this draft.
Drop the last part and it's a good post noob. Next years the year for defense.
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Old 04-10-2009, 12:23 PM   #92
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Old 04-10-2009, 12:26 PM   #93
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This is the best argument so far (not surprising considering the source ).

I still don't like it. We need defense. Trade down.
You're not going to get any impact defensive players in this draft.

The Chiefs need to rebuild their offense line and add a speed wide receiver. That can easily be accomplished in this draft, especially if the Chiefs can pick up additional draft choices with a trade down.
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Old 04-10-2009, 12:27 PM   #94
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You're not going to get any impact defensive players in this draft.
Bullshit. If we could get Raji and Brown in rd 1, they BOTH have the potential to be impact players.
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You're not going to get any impact defensive players in this draft.

The Chiefs need to rebuild their offense line and add a speed wide receiver. That can easily be accomplished in this draft, especially if the Chiefs can pick up additional draft choices with a trade down.
Stupidest post ever. Yea there are no good defensive players in this draft even at the #3 pick
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This is the best argument so far (not surprising considering the source ).

I still don't like it. We need defense. Trade down.
Oh, I still think that's what Pioli wants to do. I think he's hoping he can broker Stafford or Sanchez to a team that really wants him. But, its possible that he might not be able to pull off a deall. If a deal is close, but Pioli feels that other teams think they can get Stafford or Sanchez by trading for a slightly lower pick, then Pioli might just take the QB to force the trade. (Somewhat like the Chargers did with Eli Manning in 2004).

Drafting Monroe/Jason Smith might be an acceptable fall-back position. There are numerous possiblities and the Chiefs have so much cap room they have lots of room to manuever.
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Monroe-Waters-Niswanger-Goff-Albert doesn't sound too bad to me...
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I can't believe I just read a post claiming that Albert wasn't even the 2nd best rookie OT last year.

Wait, this is ChiefsPlanet right?

Nevermind.
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I'm going to go ape shit if Albert is moved.
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I can't believe I just read a post claiming that Albert wasn't even the 2nd best rookie OT last year.

Wait, this is ChiefsPlanet right?

Nevermind.
Most of the guys in the NFL agreed with that at this time last year, otherwise Albert wouldn't be on our team.
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Monroe-Waters-Niswanger-Goff-Albert doesn't sound too bad to me...

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And where are you drafting that big-titted bastard? Is this a trade-down scenario? Where in round 1?
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The only thing that annoys me more than people who want to draft Monroe are people who call him Branden Alberts.
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Most of the guys in the NFL agreed with that at this time last year, otherwise Albert wouldn't be on our team.
Yet another reason to take these so-called experts rankings with a grain of salt.

Albert played better than a guy that was taken 14 spots ahead of him.

Wouldn't be shocked to see the same thing happen at the ILB position in this draft.
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