Chiefs Cassel Third Highest Paid QB In 2010 - Page 7

RustShack · 02-16-2010, 12:34 PM

Cassel's contract puts more pressure on 2010 season
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 16, 2010 1:28 PM ET

Chiefs fans looking to raise their blood pressure should check out today's article in the Kansas City Star regarding Matt Cassel's contract.

We knew Cassel's total contract figures, but the some of the front-loaded numbers in the deal are eye-opening. Cassel's $11.75 million base salary in 2010 ranks third among NFL quarterbacks.

The Chiefs brass says they fully believe in Cassel, and they know better than anyone how awful their offensive line and receivers played last season.

With that said, Cassel is getting paid like a top-five quarterback. We wonder if he must start producing like one to stay in Kansas City past 2010.

Cassel is due a raise to $12.25 million in 2011, including a $7.5 million option bonus. That kind of option is a checkpoint in the contract -- a time to get out. If we had to bet on it today, we'd guess Cassel stays in Kansas City in 2011 and beyond.

But the guy has to show some progress on the field. Another rough season, and the best option for the Chiefs will be to move on.

**DeezNutz** · 02-16-2010, 04:11 PM

Cassel is a leader of men.

How many QBs in the league could put one off the crossbars as accurately and poetically as Matty in the clutch?

Jump ball, bitches.

Brock · 02-16-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

It is the typical CP problem. You cant defend anybody or anything without being an all out homer or believe they are the next coming of JC.

My criticism and disappointment of Cassel grew as the year went on I will admit that. He has to play better or he wont see that $ in 2011. That is why teh contract is structured that way.

i am just not going to to throw him under the bus until he has had a chance to work with Weiss and have a full off season working on the offense.

I think that's more important the the line and other stuff.

He's no reason to pass on drafting a QB. You're holding out hope he's going to suddenly improve beyond what we've seen, and it's unlikely.

MoreLemonPledge · 02-16-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

He's no reason to pass on drafting a QB. You're holding out hope he's going to suddenly improve beyond what we've seen, and it's unlikely.

In one breath people are lamenting the fact that we gave Cassel this contract, and then the same people turn around and advocate drafting another QB that will probably get a very similar contract and who is unproven. It just doesn't make sense.

Titty Meat · 02-16-2010, 04:15 PM

Sure it does. I have no reason not to believe Weis and if the Chiefs can draft a franchise QB who will play for 10-15 years opposed to another QB who will play 6 at the most i'll gladly draft Clausen.

**DeezNutz** · 02-16-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

In one breath people are lamenting the fact that we gave Cassel this contract, and then the same people turn around and advocate drafting another QB that will probably get a very similar contract and who is unproven. It just doesn't make sense.

Because he's not worth it.

A young player with legit upside IS worth the risk, financial and otherwise. The fact that this continues to be a debate is baffling.

"Unproven." ****. Until this team drafts and develops its own franchise QB, we won't win a ****ing thing of real value.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-16-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

In one breath people are lamenting the fact that we gave Cassel this contract, and then the same people turn around and advocate drafting another QB that will probably get a very similar contract and who is unproven. It just doesn't make sense.

It makes all the sense in the world.

If you're going to give a big contract to a QB would you give it to the 22 year old out of college that has the talent, makeup and physical tools to be an elite, franchise QB?

Or would you give it to the 27 year old career backup that has never, and will never be thought of as a potential franchise QB?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-16-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Because he's not worth it.

A young player with legit upside IS worth the risk, financial and otherwise. The fact that this continues to be a debate is baffling.

"Unproven." ****. Until this team drafts and develops its own franchise QB, we won't win a ****ing thing of real value.

Marcellus · 02-16-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

He's no reason to pass on drafting a QB. You're holding out hope he's going to suddenly improve beyond what we've seen, and it's unlikely.

So let me get this straight.

When he went 11-5 in NE his first year starting since HS it was 100% due to the level of talent around him.

When he went 4-12 here in KC it had 0% to do with the level of talent around him?

Gotcha.

I am not some Cassel loving homer but the hatred has gotten out of hand.

MoreLemonPledge · 02-16-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Or would you give it to the 27 year old career backup that has never, and will never be thought of as a potential franchise QB?

That's just it. The Chiefs organization views Cassel as the franchise QB. Not potential. He is the guy. All of the arguments in the world won't change that. I think that's what people fail to understand.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-16-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

So let me get this straight.

When he went 11-5 in NE his first year starting since HS it was 100% due to the level of talent around him.

When he went 4-12 here in KC it had 0% to do with the level of talent around him?

Gotcha.

I am not some Cassel loving homer but the hatred has gotten out of hand.

Christ, a ****ing COLTS FAN saw this coming, but our dumbass fanbase doesn't understand.

http://www.mycolts.net/blogs/peytons...re-of-yac.aspx

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-16-2010, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

That's just it. The Chiefs organization views Cassel as the franchise QB. Not potential. He is the guy. All of the arguments in the world won't change that. I think that's what people fail to understand.

Oh, we understand it.

We also understand this team will never win a ****ing thing with him as the starting QB.

Do YOU think Matt Cassel is capable of putting a team on his shoulders and winning a championship?

MoreLemonPledge · 02-16-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Christ, a ****ing COLTS FAN saw this coming, but our dumbass fanbase doesn't understand.

http://www.mycolts.net/blogs/peytons...re-of-yac.aspx

So the fact that he was throwing to Randy Moss and Wes Welker, plus the fact that his offensive gameplan called for a lot of screen passes, is negative? Does that speak more to the skill of Cassel or his receiving crew?

Maybe Cassel should have thrown to receivers that weren't as open, or maybe he should have asked them to fall down after 4.9 yards.

Marcellus · 02-16-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It makes all the sense in the world.

If you're going to give a big contract to a QB would you give it to the 22 year old out of college that has the talent, makeup and physical tools to be an elite, franchise QB?

Or would you give it to the 27 year old career backup that has never, and will never be thought of as a potential franchise QB?

Except the contract given the rookie will cost more in guaranteed money and will not have a fairly easy out option in a few years. It isn't the same thing.

He plays well or he is gone after 2011. It is the same argument used against me with the Bledsoe deal when NE gave him $100MM contract right after they drafted Brady. How much of the $100MM did Bledsoe see?

Brock · 02-16-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

So let me get this straight.

When he went 11-5 in NE his first year starting since HS it was 100% due to the level of talent around him.

When he went 4-12 here in KC it had 0% to do with the level of talent around him?

Gotcha.

I am not some Cassel loving homer but the hatred has gotten out of hand.

I don't care about how many games he won or lost in KC. I knew this team was going to suck. What I'm talking about is Cassel and his lame play. Watch him play. Have you looked at that deep ball? Look at it.

**The Franchise** · 02-16-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

So the fact that he was throwing to Randy Moss and Wes Welker, plus the fact that his offensive gameplan called for a lot of screen passes, is negative? Does that speak more to the skill of Cassel or his receiving crew?

Maybe Cassel should have thrown to receivers that weren't as open, or maybe he should have asked them to fall down after 4.9 yards.

The gameplan called for more screen passes because that's what Cassel can do. He didn't have the arm or the accuracy to toss it up to Moss.

02-16-2010, 12:34 PM
RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $3046954	Cassel Third Highest Paid QB In 2010 Cassel's contract puts more pressure on 2010 season Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 16, 2010 1:28 PM ET Chiefs fans looking to raise their blood pressure should check out today's article in the Kansas City Star regarding Matt Cassel's contract. We knew Cassel's total contract figures, but the some of the front-loaded numbers in the deal are eye-opening. Cassel's $11.75 million base salary in 2010 ranks third among NFL quarterbacks. The Chiefs brass says they fully believe in Cassel, and they know better than anyone how awful their offensive line and receivers played last season. With that said, Cassel is getting paid like a top-five quarterback. We wonder if he must start producing like one to stay in Kansas City past 2010. Cassel is due a raise to $12.25 million in 2011, including a $7.5 million option bonus. That kind of option is a checkpoint in the contract -- a time to get out. If we had to bet on it today, we'd guess Cassel stays in Kansas City in 2011 and beyond. But the guy has to show some progress on the field. Another rough season, and the best option for the Chiefs will be to move on.
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