Peter King: The Chiefs will never take a safety that high

[dirk digler]

I hope that ****nut is wrong but I am sure I will be disappointed if Berry is there and they pass unless they decide to draft Clausen.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/

I noticed last night SI's Peter King was tweeting up a storm at his Twitter account about all things football for a few hours. One very interesting observation came out of him that I think would surprise a lot of us here.
Someone suggested the Chiefs trade with the Dolphins, who are in need of a playmaking safety. King, who agreed with a Miami/Kansas City trade scenario, had this to say:

"And KC would never take [safety] that high."

Now, King's one of the best in the business when it comes to sports reporting, especially the NFL and that sounds like a pretty definitive statement.

With that said, I see his logic. Scott Pioli has always struck me as a guy who's more likely to build from the inside out meaning the focus is on the offensive and defensive lines.

Just something to keep in mind as we inch toward April.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

The Kansas City Royal Chiefs.

Get ready for t-shirt Sundays and Andre Rison bobbleheads. And remember to stick around for fireworks after the game.

Don't forget the pedophile-looking Lion mascot that runs around groping little children.

Oh wait. We already have a wolf that looks like he has down syndrome.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Tamba Hali was also a rush defensive end for the 4-3 that led the country in sacks coming out of college. He's led the NFL in forced fumbles for the past four seasons. He's led the Chiefs in sacks the past two seasons.

Playmaker.

You whiny bitches have been getting playmakers damn near every ****ing draft.

However, the "True Fans" have been getting screwed. ONE offensive lineman picked in the first three rounds over the last TEN years. ONE.

And when someone mentions that we won't draft a safety with a top five pick - that's right A SAFETY WITH A TOP FIVE PICK, which is bordering on stupid insane, you have a conniption saying we've never picked "playmakers" and it's always been "true fan" drafts. We'll, I'll tell you straight up, with the exception of Carl's penchant for draft defensive tackles that never pan out, he primarily focused on WR, RB, CB, S, DE for the high picks. There's your playmakers at playmaker positions. If they actually built from the inside out, like smart teams do, we would have been a lot better off. However, Carl had to placate his inner Drafturbator, and kept drafting "playmakers" in the top three rounds every single year. That's how you destroy/ruin a franchise, and it's easily proven by looking at the stupid teams that did that every single year such as the Chiefs and the Lions.

I forgot how many 1st round picks the Saints, Colts, Cardinals, and Steelers spent on their OL.

Of their starters in the SB? 1, a bust (Levi Brown).

At the skill positions:

1st round picks:

Colts: WR: Wayne, Gonzalez
TE: Dallas Clark
RB: Donald Brown, Addai
QB: Manning
DE: Freeney

Saints: WR: Meachem
RB: Bush
CB: Jenkins
DT: Ellis
QB: (Brees was taken with what is now a 1st rounder)
TE: Shockey


Steelers:

WR: Santonio Holmes
TE: Heath Miller
QB: Roethlisberger
S: Polamalu
DT: Hampton

Cardinals:

CB: DRC
S: Rolle
WR: Fitzgerald
DE: Calvin Pace

[lostcause]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

The Kansas City Royal Chiefs.

Get ready for t-shirt Sundays and Andre Rison bobbleheads. And remember to stick around for fireworks after the game.

I want an Andre Rison bobble head.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

3 years in a row of top 5 picks

0 playmakers Incredible...

0 QBs


basically sets the franchise back a decade and makes all the losing to this point absolutely pointless...

[Dayze]

Arizona - 1 OL taken in the 1st since 2000
New Orleans - 1 OL taken in the 1st since (no 1st rounders on SB winning team/offense)
Indy - no OL taken since 2000 (break down since 2000 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 DE, 1 TE, 1 CB)
Pitt - 2 OL taken in 1st since 1996 (Faneca '98 at #26, and Kendall Simmons in '02 at #30)
Giants - no OL taken in 1st 1988
Pats - 2 OL taken in 1st since 1999 (Center '99, and Mankins in 2005 at #32 overall)

[go bo]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

We don't need playmakers we need cogs

what position does cogs play?

can he play corner?

how 'bout right tackle?

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Tamba Hali was also a rush defensive end for the 4-3 that led the country in sacks coming out of college. He's led the NFL in forced fumbles for the past four seasons. He's led the Chiefs in sacks the past two seasons.

Playmaker.

You whiny bitches have been getting playmakers damn near every ****ing draft.

However, the "True Fans" have been getting screwed. ONE offensive lineman picked in the first three rounds over the last TEN years. ONE.

And when someone mentions that we won't draft a safety with a top five pick - that's right A SAFETY WITH A TOP FIVE PICK, which is bordering on stupid insane, you have a conniption saying we've never picked "playmakers" and it's always been "true fan" drafts. We'll, I'll tell you straight up, with the exception of Carl's penchant for draft defensive tackles that never pan out, he primarily focused on WR, RB, CB, S, DE for the high picks. There's your playmakers at playmaker positions. If they actually built from the inside out, like smart teams do, we would have been a lot better off. However, Carl had to placate his inner Drafturbator, and kept drafting "playmakers" in the top three rounds every single year. That's how you destroy/ruin a franchise, and it's easily proven by looking at the stupid teams that did that every single year such as the Chiefs and the Lions.

your so dumb that leaves me speechless...and the thing is, you're even more dishonest....

[Dayze]

I agree the line needs to be fixed, but no way do I spend a 5 on OL; hell, even 1st round.

teams that have been to and won the SB have consistently spent 1st round picks on DT, DE, WR, CB, TE, RB

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Metrolike

Can we please wait till next year to draft a QB, though? Please?

This.

The problem here Metro is that people have this kneejerk reaction to ANY quarterback in the draft at this point because the Chiefs haven't drafted one in the first round. They think that, unlike premier left tackles, who can be found in the sixth round and beyond, franchise level quarterbacks can only be picked in the top of the first round of the draft.

So what if Clausen had 40 less career touchdowns as Brady Quinn in the same system? So what if Clausen is less mobile than Drew Bledsoe at half the size? So what if his arms and hands are smaller than a Lilliputianesque Munchkin?

He's a quarterback. That played in a "pro style" offensive scheme. That's all that matters.

Who cares if guys like Jake Locker, Ryan Mallett and Blaine Gabbert are going to be available in the coming years? As long as we secure a quarterback from one of the two remaining big name schools that run a "pro style" set (Notre Dame - this year only though because who knows what they will be running next year, and USC) is all that matters.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Dayze

Arizona - 1 OL taken in the 1st since 2000
New Orleans - 1 OL taken in the 1st since (no 1st rounders on SB winning team/offense)
Indy - no OL taken since 2000 (break down since 2000 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 DE, 1 TE, 1 CB)
Pitt - no OL taken in 1st since 1996
Giants - no OL taken in 1st 1988
Pats - no OL taken in 1st since 1999 (Center)

Indy took a 1st round tackle a few years ago.

[Chiefnj2]

You need to build a solid line. If you can do it with late round draft picks fine. If you cant', which KC hasn't been able to, then you need to use some earlier picks. I don't care how other teams do it, I don't care how KC does it, it just needs to be done.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by nychief

that is a myopic view of the game and the especially line play... feels to me that half the people bitching about drafting lineman on this board do so because they are ignorant, they just clamor to see guys with the ball in their hands....

Offensive lineman don't really shine when they play Madden. Imagine the possibilities of what Berry's stats might be as a rookie in Madden '11!!!! He'll be the Michael Vick of the defense and he might really give the Madden Chiefs a legit chance to do big things!

[Dayze]

I posted this in another thread:

since 1990, there have been 6 teams that was won a SB with a QB they did not draft:
Ravens (Dilfer), Rams (Warner), Bucs (Johnson), Saints (Brees), Niners (Young), Packers (Favre)

of those, Dilfer, Young were 1st Rd picks (Brees was 32 overall; Favre 33rd overall).

the other 14 Super Bowl winners that drafted a QB, only 2 were not 1st Round picks: Brady & Rypien.


So, of the last 20 SB winners, only 6 were not 1st Round picks.

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by Brock

Indy took a 1st round tackle a few years ago.

1997 Tarik Glen?
or someone else I might have missed?

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Dayze

1997 Tarik Glen?
or someone else I might have missed?

Sorry, it was a high second round pick. Ugoh.