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**BossChief** · 01-10-2012, 10:59 PM

Richardson sure would help Stanzi look good after about game 6 or 7 when Cassel gets pulled.

Setsuna · 01-10-2012, 11:27 PM

htidmaqe.....it seems like everyone else knows what they're talking about but you. You seem to like to argue and that's it. I think a power RB would do wonders for the Chiefs. Having a good running game can cover up a not so stellar OL when a PA pass only takes about 3 sec to pull off, they can at least hold that long. I like that idea a lot. The goal is to try and find depth so something like this year's injuries doesn't decimate the team as much.

**tyler360** · 01-10-2012, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna

htidmaqe.....it seems like everyone else knows what they're talking about but you. You seem to like to argue and that's it. I think a power RB would do wonders for the Chiefs. Having a good running game can cover up a not so stellar OL when a PA pass only takes about 3 sec to pull off, they can at least hold that long. I like that idea a lot. The goal is to try and find depth so something like this year's injuries doesn't decimate the team as much.

I agree with what you are saying.

I think what H is after is the fact that he would be a band aid on a broken leg. Just a cover up to the real problem of a qb and not having one.

Cassel did not have to win games last year, and it would be very tempting to do the whole ground and pound approach with defense again.

It would win us quite a few games but we have all seen what happens against a real qb. We lose.

That is what he is worrying about more than the player I think.

htismaqe · 01-11-2012, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler360

I agree with what you are saying.

I think what H is after is the fact that he would be a band aid on a broken leg. Just a cover up to the real problem of a qb and not having one.

Cassel did not have to win games last year, and it would be very tempting to do the whole ground and pound approach with defense again.

It would win us quite a few games but we have all seen what happens against a real qb. We lose.

That is what he is worrying about more than the player I think.

DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!

htismaqe · 01-11-2012, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna

htidmaqe.....it seems like everyone else knows what they're talking about but you. You seem to like to argue and that's it. I think a power RB would do wonders for the Chiefs. Having a good running game can cover up a not so stellar OL when a PA pass only takes about 3 sec to pull off, they can at least hold that long. I like that idea a lot. The goal is to try and find depth so something like this year's injuries doesn't decimate the team as much.

I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Trent Richardson is a curtain - it all looks good up front but what's behind him still STINKS.

If you like going 10-6 and losing in the playoffs every year, by all means, draft him.

I'd prefer to see a Super Bowl in my lifetime.

Setsuna · 01-11-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Trent Richardson is a curtain - it all looks good up front but what's behind him still STINKS.

If you like going 10-6 and losing in the playoffs every year, by all means, draft him.

I'd prefer to see a Super Bowl in my lifetime.

Ok man. Let's just say, Chiefs D is stout as hell. Receivers are leet. You have a sick 2 RB tandem and you have a serviceable QB that limits TO. How is that not a recipe for a Superbowl or a deep playoff team? Don't make me laugh.

And don't even think I'm calling Cassel serviceable.

**the Talking Can** · 01-11-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna

Ok man. Let's just say, Chiefs D is stout as hell. Receivers are leet. You have a sick 2 RB tandem and you have a serviceable QB that limits TO. How is that not a recipe for a Superbowl or a deep playoff team? Don't make me laugh.

And don't even think I'm calling Cassel serviceable.

because Superbowls are won by great QBs, not serviceable QBs....

I can't even believe I'm reading this from a Chiefs fan...is this Carl?

Setsuna · 01-11-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

because Superbowls are won by great QBs, not serviceable QBs....

I can't even believe I'm reading this from a Chiefs fan...is this Carl?

I think Chiefs have the swag necessary to win a SB without an elite QB. You need to recognize and not be reeruned.

ToxSocks · 01-11-2012, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

because Superbowls are won by great QBs, not serviceable QBs....

I can't even believe I'm reading this from a Chiefs fan...is this Carl?

Yeah. But this is about drafting a RB, not about whether or not we're drafting a QB.

QB is the obvious answer.

But passing up one of the best talents in the draft because our QB isn't there is not how you build a talented team.

htismaqe · 01-11-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna

Ok man. Let's just say, Chiefs D is stout as hell. Receivers are leet. You have a sick 2 RB tandem and you have a serviceable QB that limits TO. How is that not a recipe for a Superbowl or a deep playoff team? Don't make me laugh.

And don't even think I'm calling Cassel serviceable.

The Chiefs D is stout as hell. It's not the 2000 Ravens or 2002 Bucs, however.

Those just happen to be the ONLY two teams to win Super Bowls in the last 15 years to win a Super Bowl with an elite QB.

GordonGekko · 01-11-2012, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Trent Richardson is a curtain - it all looks good up front but what's behind him still STINKS.

If you like going 10-6 and losing in the playoffs every year, by all means, draft him.

I'd prefer to see a Super Bowl in my lifetime.

Shit, I'd take 10-6 every year, and you know making the playoffs that many times in a row you'd luck the fuck out eventually and win the SB. It is a numbers game *moneyball.

htismaqe · 01-11-2012, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko

Shit, I'd take 10-6 every year, and you know making the playoffs that many times in a row you'd luck the fuck out eventually and win the SB. It is a numbers game *moneyball.

That worked in the 90's, didn't it?

BigChiefFan · 01-11-2012, 12:03 AM

We need to trade UP and get the best QB prospect in the draft.

It's not going to ham-string our team long-term.

Grow a set of balls and quit justifying just going through the motions.

40 years of nothing-40 years of zero franchise QBs...this is a no-brainer, folks.

aturnis · 01-11-2012, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

We need to trade UP and get the best QB prospect in the draft.

It's not going to ham-string our team long-term.

Grow a set of balls and quit justifying just going through the motions.

40 years of nothing-40 years of zero franchise QBs...this is a no-brainer, folks.

Will not happen. Pioli Might trade up for Luck, but Luck won't be available. IF someone is willing to auction their pick for RG3 away, it would cost WAY too much, and Pioli wouldn't pull the trigger for RG3. His boom/bust factor is too high for that kind of investment.

So, at 11/12, no QB's available, who do you pick?

htismaqe · 01-11-2012, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

We need to trade UP and get the best QB prospect in the draft.

It's not going to ham-string our team long-term.

Grow a set of balls and quit justifying just going through the motions.

40 years of nothing-40 years of zero franchise QBs...this is a no-brainer, folks.

Trading up for a QB who subsequently busts will only set us back for the length of time he's here. Matt Cassel's CONTRACT didn't hurt us, his PLAY did. And once he's gone, there won't be any residual effect.

However, if we draft Trent Richardson, you can bet your ass it will set this franchise back. Visions of Okoye and Word, 3 yards and a cloud of dust - Clark would have us back to 1991 in about 2 minutes. And it would take 10 years to dig out of it.

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Setsuna Paladin Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Gator Country Casino cash: $10008487	htidmaqe.....it seems like everyone else knows what they're talking about but you. You seem to like to argue and that's it. I think a power RB would do wonders for the Chiefs. Having a good running game can cover up a not so stellar OL when a PA pass only takes about 3 sec to pull off, they can at least hold that long. I like that idea a lot. The goal is to try and find depth so something like this year's injuries doesn't decimate the team as much. Last edited by Setsuna; 01-10-2012 at 11:28 PM.. Reason: gram
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