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Old 04-29-2012, 07:12 PM   #1
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SNR touched on this a bit, but our 3rd string scrubs last oreseason were worse than our opponents 3rd string scrubs, most notably on the O-Line.

In his limited snaps in the preseason, he spent the majority of his time running for his life.

He did show some real moxie and toughness in those situations.

In his only appearence with the second team, he was calm and collected in the pocket and lead the Chiefs to a TD with efficiency and poise, making at least two passes that neither Cassel or Palko could even dream of making.

Granted, it's only preseason, and there's a lot of preseason pro bowlers that never amount to anything when the real bullits fly, but in that one series, we did get a glimpse of what his potential may be.
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:14 PM   #2
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:20 PM   #3
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It's like Huard/Croyle all over again.
This. Not exactly Montana vs Young here. More like which shitburger tastes better?
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:31 PM   #4
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This. Not exactly Montana vs Young here. More like which shitburger tastes better?
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Nah. It's more like you have a choice between a shitburger (Cassel) and a burger that has a very suspicious-looking condiment spread on the bun. Could be something innocent like peanut butter, or it could a congealed smear of Type 7 poop.

And before you get started, yes, peanut butter cheeseburgers are ****ing amazing. Don't knock it 'til you've tried it.
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:18 PM   #5
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:38 PM   #6
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There's a couple of gifs floating around here where Stanzi finds Cody Slate on a seam pattern down the middle with an excellent throw, and another where he finds him on a corner route for a touchdown. Both throws were excellent, and the TD throw was off his back foot, but still on the money.

Those are the two plays I remember thinking "damn good throw, there".
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:44 PM   #7
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There's a couple of gifs floating around here where Stanzi finds Cody Slate on a seam pattern down the middle with an excellent throw, and another where he finds him on a corner route for a touchdown. Both throws were excellent, and the TD throw was off his back foot, but still on the money.

Those are the two plays I remember thinking "damn good throw, there".
I remember the pass to Slate. My initial reaction was, "Wow".
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:47 PM   #8
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There's a couple of gifs floating around here where Stanzi finds Cody Slate on a seam pattern down the middle with an excellent throw, and another where he finds him on a corner route for a touchdown. Both throws were excellent, and the TD throw was off his back foot, but still on the money.

Those are the two plays I remember thinking "damn good throw, there".
I can't remember what game this was in, whether it was the Green Bay preseason game or one of the first wins we got last season (Vikings? Colts?) but Cassel has a gif'd up throw that was pretty good. The problem with it is he had to gallop and take about 6 or 7 steps to get into an broad-legged stance to achieve his windup.

By comparison, I don't think we'll ever see Stanzi leisurely take one of those 4-second preps if he becomes our starter. It's just so totally not necessary.

Remember, Stanzi had a few weeks of coaching sessions out of Tom Martinez, whose big thing was eliminating unnecessary motion and keeping everything compact and efficient.

College efficiency, starts, consecutive years of improvement, bowl wins, quality conference wins, and pro style background in college are the main reasons why people compare Stanzi to Brady. Throw in a brief stint with Martinez (not nearly as long as Brady had him for, but still) and hell... you practically EXPECT him to be the next Brady.

I know all of that means shit, but it shows that it's not totally unfair to point to Brady when people ask what Stanzi could do.
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:41 PM   #9
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Are we so starved for a quarterback, ANY quarterback.
Yes, and for good damned reason. No franchise qb since Len Dawson.

EVERYONE should be starved for a good qb.

I do know Matt Cassel ISNT that qb.
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:45 PM   #10
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Should have been locked here. People waiting on Stanzi truly enjoy urinating into a fierce north wind.
It's our lot in life as Chiefs fans, apparently. MAYBE PAT BARNES CAN TAKE OVER WHEN GRBAC IS DONE, et al.
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Yes, and for good damned reason. No franchise qb since Len Dawson.

EVERYONE should be starved for a good qb.

I do know Matt Cassel ISNT that qb.
The only person that seemingly doesn't know that is the guy making personnel decisions for the Chiefs. For the life of me, I have no clue as to what he sees in Cassel that literally the rest of the world doesn't.
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:48 PM   #11
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I dont either, everyone see's that Cassel isnt the guy but him. I dont know what he see's positive out of cassel. I think that 27 and 7 season did something to Pioli. That was a huge ass Mirage.

Cassel isnt accurate, he doesnt have a strong arm, He cant make the big play in crunch time. He cant throw a screen pass to save is life. He has shit for pocket presence. Its like what does he see?
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:05 PM   #12
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I dont either, everyone see's that Cassel isnt the guy but him. I dont know what he see's positive out of cassel. I think that 27 and 7 season did something to Pioli. That was a huge ass Mirage.

Cassel isnt accurate, he doesnt have a strong arm, He cant make the big play in crunch time. He cant throw a screen pass to save is life. He has shit for pocket presence. Its like what does he see?
When everything is absolutely perfect around Cassel, he is a great QB. But as soon as there is a touch of pressure or his first read isn't open, you can see him getting happy feet and looking to dump off. Speaking of gifs, someone posted a gif of Cassel hitting an underneath crossing route while the pocket was beginning to collapse while he never noticed the guy breaking to the post (Baldwin?) was wide the **** open.

In 2010 when he was on that hot streak with Bowe, I'd like to know how many of those passes were hit off of play action. That was also when Charles was on his streak, and nearly broke Jim Brown's season record for yards per carry,and defenses were trying to shut down the run game before the pass game.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:08 PM   #13
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When everything is absolutely perfect around Cassel, he is a great QB. But as soon as there is a touch of pressure or his first read isn't open, you can see him getting happy feet and looking to dump off. Speaking of gifs, someone posted a gif of Cassel hitting an underneath crossing route while the pocket was beginning to collapse while he never noticed the guy breaking to the post (Baldwin?) was wide the **** open.

In 2010 when he was on that hot streak with Bowe, I'd like to know how many of those passes were hit off of play action. That was also when Charles was on his streak, and nearly broke Jim Brown's season record for yards per carry,and defenses were trying to shut down the run game before the pass game.
Really, he's not.



Even with a great pocket, he doesn't have the ability to read defenses and accurately put it in the right spot consistently. He can do it from time to time, but not near enough.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:09 PM   #14
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When everything is absolutely perfect around Cassel, he is a great QB. But as soon as there is a touch of pressure or his first read isn't open, you can see him getting happy feet and looking to dump off. Speaking of gifs, someone posted a gif of Cassel hitting an underneath crossing route while the pocket was beginning to collapse while he never noticed the guy breaking to the post (Baldwin?) was wide the **** open.

In 2010 when he was on that hot streak with Bowe, I'd like to know how many of those passes were hit off of play action. That was also when Charles was on his streak, and nearly broke Jim Brown's season record for yards per carry,and defenses were trying to shut down the run game before the pass game.
The other teams were stacking the box trying to stop Charles weren't they?
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