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Old 09-16-2012, 08:00 PM  
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Romeo's defensive scheme has got to go...
It's old, it's soft and it doesn't work anymore. Did you see the Bills getting pressure up the middle? Might that have something to do with them actually trying to get pressure instead of just "eating up blockers"?

We keep hearing it's the job of our d-line to consume blockers so the LB's can be free. Free to do what? I am a fan of the 3-4 but not this style of the 3-4. We are never going to get consistent pressure on a QB at all. Teams take Hali out of the game and their QB has all day to sit back.

Meanwhile our "free" LB's are getting toasted over the middle or just plain leaving it wide open.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:38 PM   #91
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What kind of logic is this? Surely everything won't be all rainbows and peanut butter cups, but this is without question a better team than it was last year.

If the defense turns around just the same as they did last year, get Lewis, Bailey and Toribio back, it should be better than it was last year. Especially when Berry gets his legs back so to speak...

Same goes on offense for Charles and Moeaki. Not to mention this offense is already better than, and has much more potential than last years.

While the team might be better, being in the hole they're in, and having a tough schedule will probably assure they don't finish any better than they did last year...Not with Cassel at least. They'll need a better QB to really compete consistently with the better teams in the league.

The biggest hurdle for this team will be to get back to executing correctly. Hopefully next year, someone will have the team ready to play from day one...
there is not the slightest shred of proof that this team is better than last years....
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:40 PM   #92
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he's top of the depth chart because we drafted a NT so pathetically unprepared that he can't beat out a career bench warmer...

and poe got his ass handed to him all day, in case anyone was watching...

pioli manged to downgrade the nt position by spending the #11 pick in the draft on it...how's that for skill?

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The majority of first round picks are drafted for their potential. Especially early.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:45 PM   #93
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The majority of first round picks are drafted for their potential. Especially early.
no, the majority of first round picks are drafted to play...

they sure as hell aren't expected to be behind street free agents on the depth chart...
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no, the majority of first round picks are drafted to play...

they sure as hell aren't expected to be behind street free agents on the depth chart...
This.

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Old 09-18-2012, 04:57 PM   #95
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no, the majority of first round picks are drafted to play...

they sure as hell aren't expected to be behind street free agents on the depth chart...
The majority of first round QB's are drafted knowing they will likely play poorly for at least a year, if not more. Same goes for defensive linemen. The majority of dlinemen have to deal with a learning curve. There are very few players expected to play early without experiencing some sort of learning curve. Skill position guys tend to have a pretty good go early, but nowhere near where they will eventually play consistently.

Are you saying Tannehill DESERVED to get picked where he did? Or did his potential and positional value, along with demand have something to do with it?
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The majority of first round QB's are drafted knowing they will likely play poorly for at least a year, if not more. Same goes for defensive linemen. The majority of dlinemen have to deal with a learning curve. There are very few players expected to play early without experiencing some sort of learning curve. Skill position guys tend to have a pretty good go early, but nowhere near where they will eventually play consistently.

Are you saying Tannehill DESERVED to get picked where he did? Or did his potential and positional value, along with demand have something to do with it?
we're talking about a nt, who is behind the depth chart to a street free agent

that's not normal or expected for first round picks...you can pretend it is, I don't care
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there is not the slightest shred of proof that this team is better than last years....
The offense has scored 31 more points than they did at this point last year, while the defense has given up 14 points less.

The defense is absolutely looking bad b/c they are allowing big play due to being out of position. Fix the defensive players mentality, and you've fixed the defense. Aside from missing Toribio and Lewis, along with Baley on third down. Pitoitua has been nowhere near the player Bailey is. That goes for Poe and Elam as well. It's to be expensive, they're backups. All three of which, didn't have actual experience in our system, which hurts them further. Elam and Poe especially.
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The offense has scored 31 more points than they did at this point last year, while the defense has given up 14 points less.

The defense is absolutely looking bad b/c they are allowing big play due to being out of position. Fix the defensive players mentality, and you've fixed the defense. Aside from missing Toribio and Lewis, along with Baley on third down. Pitoitua has been nowhere near the player Bailey is. That goes for Poe and Elam as well. It's to be expensive, they're backups. All three of which, didn't have actual experience in our system, which hurts them further. Elam and Poe especially.
the offense has scored a bunch of garbage time points, and cassel is living proof that stats mean jack...he's been a disaster

you can believe whatever you want...to me it's just a crap team that has been humiliated for 2 straight weeks, with a shitty HC

and our DC is worse now because he's distracted by having to be a shitty HC
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we're talking about a nt, who is behind the depth chart to a street free agent

that's not normal or expected for first round picks...you can pretend it is, I don't care
You can be objective, or not. Whatever. Fact is, Poe has a lot of learning to do, as would ANY NT brought into our scheme. Unless of course they've two gapped. Poe more so, and you know why, do act ignorant. Difference is, Toribio has been working in this league for 4 yrs, and in this defense for his third year now. Big difference, especially for a position with a big learning curve.
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the offense has scored a bunch of garbage time points, and cassel is living proof that stats mean jack...he's been a disaster

you can believe whatever you want...to me it's just a crap team that has been humiliated for 2 straight weeks, with a shitty HC

and our DC is worse now because he's distracted by having to be a shitty HC
Do you think this team DIDN'T have the opportunity to score garbage time points last year? You can't be this silly, really...

I agree with your second sentence. Do you think this team continues to give up an average of 37ppg for the rest of the season? Do you REALLY think that the defense isn't CAPABLE of playing better? Get real.
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The offense has scored 31 more points than they did at this point last year
WHAT TIME IS IT?

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BTW, career benchwarmer? He was lost to injury last year and was expected to play a role last year...
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Run this with Powe at NT and Poe at DE (credit to milkman). Move Berry to FS and go find a SS that actually belongs down in the box.
I dunno man, those seem awfully hard to find.

I mean look at how tough it was for the Ravens to get ahold of that Pollard character. Perfect 'box' SS - they had to use a pretty high pick on him, if memory serves...
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WHAT TIME IS IT?
Did the first two games last year not have any garbage time?
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