Maas-rac doesn't believe he can win with cassel

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Bob Fescoe ‏@bobfescoe

wow! @billmaas bringing some serious heat today telling us rac doesn't believe he can win with cassel #chiefs

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by sedated

I heard that this morning and it was all speculation and "what ifs". And it doesn’t matter, IMHO Pioli never would have given RAC the job if he didn’t agree to having Cassel as his QB. He signed up for it, he has to deal with it.

I don't think there can be any doubt about that, and I think Haley operated under that same set of restrictions.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

He willingly TOOK the head coaching job. He KNEW at the time that Cassel was the QB.

I don't know. I think it's possible that Pioli told RAC that they would bring in competition at QB when Crennel took the job. Free agency hadn't started yet so Orton was theoretically still available. I think the Chiefs did half-heartedly try to re-sign Orton but he saw the writing on the wall and went to Dallas. They also were interested in Manning and RAC made it clear that he, at least, was very interested.

Crennel also talked all through the Senior Bowl and combine about the different QBs and they brought in a bunch of QBs for predraft visits. However, when the draft rolled around, I think Pioli couldn't bring himself to actually draft a quality QB and pussed out.

They finally ended up with Quinn and Stanzi as "competition". I think if Crennel had known from the beginning that Cassel was the starter no matter what, he wouldn't have bothered with all of the above.

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

replaying it right now on 610

What a stupid argument these guys are trying to make ... "Does this get Crennel off the hook? Yes or no." ... what?

If this were any other franchise and any player ... any player ... quarterback or d-back or punter or anybody ... was under-performing, the HC has the right, nay the responsibility, to pull that player and put somebody else in the game. Period.

Why should Cassel be any different? Crennel isn't "on the hook" by any measure. And, even if he were, he could get his ass off the hook pretty damn fast by pulling Cassel and giving one of the other guys a shot.

If Crennel doesn't have faith in Cassel, bench his ass. Problem solved.

God. Sometimes the KC media morons flat wear me out.

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[DaWolf]

The good thing about the age we live in now is that the message can be heard loud and clear. And the media has finally hopped on board with this thing too. You can't snooker people anymore. Just like last year word leaked out that Pioli would be unable to hire McDaniels because it would be viewed as a PR disaster and would be un-sellable to the season ticket fan base, this Cassel thing is going to come to a head. If we continue to suck this year, there is no way they can walk into next year thinking Cassel is going to sell tickets, especially when Arrowhead is half empty the last two months of the season.

Even if Clark Hunt was all about the money in this town, he should know that all it would take to sell a few tickets is to draft a first round QB (not named Landry Jones) and get this town excited about the possibilities and get jersey's flying off the shelf...

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Frosty

I don't know. I think it's possible that Pioli told RAC that they would bring in competition at QB when Crennel took the job. Free agency hadn't started yet so Orton was theoretically still available. I think the Chiefs did half-heartedly try to re-sign Orton but he saw the writing on the wall and went to Dallas. They also were interested in Manning and RAC made it clear that he, at least, was very interested.

Crennel also talked all through the Senior Bowl and combine about the different QBs and they brought in a bunch of QBs for predraft visits. However, when the draft rolled around, I think Pioli couldn't bring himself to actually draft a quality QB and pussed out.

They finally ended up with Quinn and Stanzi as "competition". I think if Crennel had known from the beginning that Cassel was the starter no matter what, he wouldn't have bothered with all of the above.

Seeing as how RAC and Weis are such good friends, Weis is close with Quinn, and said he could have won with him in the pros, and Quinn took less money to come here tells me that Weis, and Crennel both thought that Cassel was going to fail, and that Quinn was going to get a shot at some point. I'm really thinking that if Cassel keeps being a biotch, Quinn is going to see the filed. RAC has nothing to lose at this point. I think he will pull the trigger if this keeps going the way it has been. This place will explode with joy if Cassel gets pulled for anyone. I think Quinn can succeed too with the way the pass protection has been. The tackles have looked really good, and Cassel has been pressured very little, but has completely shit his pants when he has been.

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Seeing as how RAC and Weis are such good friends, Weis is close with Quinn, and said he could have won with him in the pros, and Quinn took less money to come here tells me that Weis, and Crennel both thought that Cassel was going to fail, and that Quinn was going to get a shot at some point. I'm really thinking that if Cassel keeps being a biotch, Quinn is going to see the filed. RAC has nothing to lose at this point. I think he will pull the trigger if this keeps going the way it has been. This place will explode with joy if Cassel gets pulled for anyone. I think Quinn can succeed too with the way the pass protection has been. The tackles have looked really good, and Cassel has been pressured very little, but has completely shit his pants when he has been.

That is a very interesting theory, Mr. beach tribe. I like it.

Maybe Quinn can get the job done and the team would rally around him. It would take some time to get up to speed, but it sure would be nice to see. The Chiefs Kingdom is hungry for a change at that position.

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[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Frosty

I don't know. I think it's possible that Pioli told RAC that they would bring in competition at QB when Crennel took the job. Free agency hadn't started yet so Orton was theoretically still available. I think the Chiefs did half-heartedly try to re-sign Orton but he saw the writing on the wall and went to Dallas. They also were interested in Manning and RAC made it clear that he, at least, was very interested.

Crennel also talked all through the Senior Bowl and combine about the different QBs and they brought in a bunch of QBs for predraft visits. However, when the draft rolled around, I think Pioli couldn't bring himself to actually draft a quality QB and pussed out.

They finally ended up with Quinn and Stanzi as "competition". I think if Crennel had known from the beginning that Cassel was the starter no matter what, he wouldn't have bothered with all of the above.

And then what? Be unemployed?

[Demonpenz]

I like how the entire offseason the Front Office was blaiming Todd Haley. Mitch Holthus has been a clown for several years, and now he just added more make up with his remarks on the radio about "Todd Haley's Training camp...I don't know what that was...but it wasn't an NFL Training camp" bla bla bla. Whole place announcers GM anyone who doesn't put winning #1 should be sent on a Plane to France.

[007]

yeah, I was listening to 610 on my way home this morning and heard most of the interview with Maas. He spoke as if he were speaking for RAC. It was really weird.

[007]

The hell with Quinn. Go all in. Start Stanzi or Tanney.

[BossChief]

Game 6

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

And then what? Be unemployed?

All I'm saying is that by RAC's own actions and words, he was expecting more competition at QB than he got. I'm sure Pioli promised it and then didn't deliver because he's a back-stabbing worm who's married to his little buddy.

[BossChief]

Can someone post Romeos press conference from the combine for those that think Romeo was ok taking the job knowing Cassel was gonna be the unquestioned starter.

He didn't.

"Matt CSsel is the quarterback until we get another quarterback in here"

[pr_capone]

Originally Posted by Micjones

I think he'll move on from Cassel when he has access to a QB he believes is clearly better.

Remember he made an attempt at signing Manning.

He might not get that chance, but I believe he would.

I find two flaws with your thoughts here.


1. "he believes is clearly better"

The fact that he thought Kasl was going to become something in this league tells me that his talent evaluation is suspect to say the least.

2. "Remember he made an attempt at signing Manning"

What about an attempt at RG3, Andy Dalton, or even at keeping Orton? If he is going to stick by his motto that spending cap dollars doesn't create championship teams... when why not attack via the draft? Does anyone who knows anything about football really think that RG3 wasn't worth going after? It wasn't like KC didn't have the ammunition to pull off a trade of that nature.

As for his "attempt" at Manning. Peypey wouldn't even take his call. That alone speaks volumes as to the state of this organization.

Dollars to doughnuts, had we not lost the coin flip to Atlanta... he still would not have drafted Ryan.

[pr_capone]

Originally Posted by Guru

The hell with Quinn. Go all in. Start Stanzi or Tanney.

No shit. Tanney is done for the year but I liked what little we saw of him in the pre-season. If anything, it would be at least nice to have someone with a throwing range greater than 22 yards.