Chiefs What kind of HC do you want next? - Page 7

whoman69 · 10-25-2012, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Pioli is fired, Romeo is shown the door (or in his case will probably retire).

What kind of coach do you want?

A veteran coach who has had success as a head coach before, like Brian Billick, Mike Holmgren or a Bill Cowher (I doubt he leaves TV so soon)?

or...

A young coordinator who has potential as a head coach, like Mike McCoy, Perry Fewell or Mike Zimmer?

I'll take B.

It takes a lot of energy to build a franchise and mold it in your image. An older coach doesn't want to deal with the BS anymore.

**MahiMike** · 10-25-2012, 01:11 PM

I really like Brian Billick. Since we missed out on Jeff Fisher, he's my new fave. Probably won't give up his day job, but dude is super smart.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-25-2012, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

I really like Brian Billick. Since we missed out on Jeff Fisher, he's my new fave. Probably won't give up his day job, but dude is super smart.

Just seeing a competent coach on the sidelines would be nice.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-25-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan

Just seeing a competent coach on the sidelines would be nice.

I don't dislike Billick but he was never able to recreate his Minnesota offense in Baltimore. He certainly tried but it was never even close.

I'm not so sure he could do it in KC, either, especially considering the lack of a QB and what will likely be a severely depleted wide receiving and tight end corp come 2013.

**The Franchise** · 10-25-2012, 01:11 PM

Mike McCoy with Ron Rivera as the DC.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-25-2012, 01:17 PM

An offensive mastermind with a minor in defensive GOD.

Jive Ass · 10-25-2012, 01:34 PM

I miss Haley. I'd take him over a lot of the older guys. If Haley did one thing, he had the team ready to play every week. He's young, has good instincts that will become even better with time, and is fun as hell to watch when he's mad. I doubt he comes back, though.

R8RFAN · 10-25-2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jive Ass

I miss Haley. I'd take him over a lot of the older guys. If Haley did one thing, he had the team ready to play every week. He's young, has good instincts that will become even better with time, and is fun as hell to watch when he's mad. I doubt he comes back, though.

I thought the Chiefs made a mistake the day they fired him.. He will be a HC in the NFL again.

-King- · 10-25-2012, 01:36 PM

Wade Phillips.

Can run a great defense. And who knows how good the Cowboys would have been if Pioli Sr. aka Jerry Jones wasn't micromanaging everything.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-25-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Wade Phillips.

Can run a great defense. And who knows how good the Cowboys would have been if Pioli Sr. aka Jerry Jones wasn't micromanaging everything.

Yeah, that's ALL Wade Phillips needs is a FOURTH NFL head coaching gig.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-25-2012, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, that's ALL Wade Phillips needs is a FOURTH NFL head coaching gig.

Pwned.

DJ's left nut · 10-25-2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, that's ALL Wade Phillips needs is a FOURTH NFL head coaching gig.

Yup, Phillips is as demonstrative as they come.

You don't hire the next hot coordinator because you like the schemes he runs. You hire him because you think he can organize and inspire. Phillips is just the pitch perfect example of the guy that can scheme a defense with the best of them.

And can't be a HC for shit.

Norv Turner springs to mind on the offensive side of the ball.

It's much much harder than people think to find a good HC. That's why guys like King are just so foolish to me. Cowher is unquestionably a good head coach and has proven it several times over. Is he going to revolutionize the way the QB position is played? Nope - and that's not his job.

You hire a leader and organizer as your HC, then you go get a guy that can scheme the shit out of things as your OC.

The two skill sets aren't terribly related.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-25-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You hire a leader and organizer as your HC, then you go get a guy that can scheme the shit out of things as your OC.

The two skill sets aren't terribly related.

This is what I've said across multiple threads.

It's early, but I like what Joe Philbin has been able to accomplish for a talent depleted football team. The Dolphins traded away their best offensive and defensive players, drafted a rookie QB and are currently sitting at 3-3 and are a few plays from 5-1.

Regardless of who their GM is in 2013, this team will be poised to make a move because they won't need to tie up their first round pick on a QB and have a pair of second and third round picks.

Philbin wasn't the "hot" coordinator. By all accounts, he didn't even call the plays. But what he was before being hired as a head coach was a pure football coach that was organized, detailed and level headed. His age (51) didn't hurt him at all.

THAT'S the type of guy I want to lead the Chiefs. Not a one-year-wonder like Chud or whomever.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-25-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Not a one-year-wonder like Chud or whomever.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-25-2012, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This is what I've said across multiple threads.

It's early, but I like what Joe Philbin has been able to accomplish for a talent depleted football team. The Dolphins traded away their best offensive and defensive players, drafted a rookie QB and are currently sitting at 3-3 and are a few plays from 5-1.

Regardless of who their GM is in 2013, this team will be poised to make a move because they won't need to tie up their first round pick on a QB and have a pair of second and third round picks.

Philbin wasn't the "hot" coordinator. By all accounts, he didn't even call the plays. But what he was before being hired as a head coach was a pure football coach that was organized, detailed and level headed. His age (51) didn't hurt him at all.

THAT'S the type of guy I want to lead the Chiefs. Not a one-year-wonder like Chud or whomever.

We're actually agreeing on some things. Too often people get excited about the "hot" coordinator. In many cases, first thing I ask myself is... if this guy has been successful for so long, then why doesn't the guy ever get a head coaching job? Exactly what I said when the Panthers made the idiotic Ron Rivera hire.

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