Chiefs Petro's back on the "drafting a QB is going to fail" rant - Page 7

htismaqe · 10-25-2012, 09:19 AM

Basically saying again that the Chiefs should draft a 1st-round QB even though though history says it won't work.

Pasta Little Brioni · 10-25-2012, 11:51 AM

....and Black Boob attempts to ruin yet another thread.

**the Talking Can** · 10-25-2012, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

Here it is in a nutshell dude...

Everyone wants to draft a QB in the first round in 2013.

There are some people who think it is a shitty QB class.

The same people want to draft a QB anyway because we are desperate.

Most of the same people probably want to keep drafting one until we find a franchise QB.

Some people (possibly you?) get offended by people who believe this is a weak QB class. Please try to be a little more open minded.

There is a 70% chance that a first round QB will bust. The way I figured it was over a ten year period. To be a first round QB that is not a bust, you must make at least one pro bowl. Why pro bowls? Because if a guy makes a pro bowl, he had at least one season where he was a top 10 QB in the league. Also, I have strict criteria on what makes a franchise QB. You don't know if you have one for at least three years. If you realistically look at first round franchise QBs, the bust factor goes way up.

This sytem is fair and it works on so many levels. Guys, we have a 30% chance of nailing this pick.

would you shut the **** up and kill yourself you god damn reerun

you are so ****ing stupid it makes the universe fall down a flight of stairs

Woodchuck · 10-25-2012, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

what do you mean here? I'm not being inflamatory, just making sure I'm reading it right etc.

I'm saying there are alot of guys that were capable of winning the Superbowl who never did for any number of reasons. Guys that won a few playoff games. I'm saying that if someone takes the time to do this, it will be a much broader pool of players to look at. Thus making it more representative in finding a capable QB. Maybe it doesn't even have to be a about playoff winners? Maybe it's about franchise QBs. Plenty of franchise QBs didn't win the Superbowl.

My point is that I am tired of hearing the whole Superbowl / first round QB argument. It's just too narrow imo. We need to be looking at alot more things. We gotta get this pick right and we only have a 30% chance.

**Rausch** · 10-25-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

My point is that I am tired of hearing the whole Superbowl...first round QB argument.

Then just Shut you're mouth and kindly **** off...

You have absolutely nothing to contribute...

ChiefMojo · 10-25-2012, 11:58 AM

Carl did a lot of things but one thing we do know for sure is the fact he mastered the art of just being good enough. Enough to keep the stadium full, rocking and keeping fans hopes alive we were just a few players away. What sandwiched this time period was the 80's and most of the 00/10's.... Cluster f**k organization with nothing but gloom and lack of hope!

We were nothing to only be teased and then discarded back to the pits of hell!

Woodchuck · 10-25-2012, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan

You have to make a Pro Bowl??????

**** THE PRO BOWL, YOU MORAN.

Let's talk about why it works...

First, it's about making one pro bowl. When a guy makes his first pro bowl, it's not because it was a popularity contest. Especially for QBs. It's because they deserved it.

Why did I say it means they were top ten in the league for that season? Because six QBs go to the pro bowl every year. A couple always don't show up. This system allows for four of six to bow out. There are always 2-4 who back out. Last year, Cam Newton and Andy Dalton went in place of Eli Manning and Tom Brady.

Every single first round QB should make at least one pro bowl imo. It is a passing league. If they can't make one, they are a first round bust.

Woodchuck · 10-25-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

....and Black Boob attempts to ruin yet another thread.

I'm sorry you feel that way. I was trying to bring some reality to the argument. I'll bow out of this one.

**Rausch** · 10-25-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

you are so ****ing stupid it makes the universe fall down a flight of stairs

**DeezNutz** · 10-25-2012, 12:04 PM

Many would have flipped out had we selected either Flacco or Ryan in the first in '08, and these people would have been wrong as shit.

Identify the QB, and take him. Please, by all things good, let Pioli be fired first.

**The Franchise** · 10-25-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

Let's talk about why it works...

First, it's about making one pro bowl. When a guy makes his first pro bowl, it's not because it was a popularity contest. Especially for QBs. It's because they deserved it.

Why did I say it means they were top ten in the league for that season? Because six QBs go to the pro bowl every year. A couple always don't show up. This system allows for four of six to bow out. There are always 2-4 who back out. Last year, Cam Newton and Andy Dalton went in place of Eli Manning and Tom Brady.

Every single first round QB should make at least one pro bowl imo. It is a passing league. If they can't make one, they are a first round bust.

Matt Cassel made the Pro Bowl.....therefore.....your argument is invalid.

Woodchuck · 10-25-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Matt Cassel made the Pro Bowl.....therefore.....your argument is invalid.

No dude, he wasn't a first round QB. This is about figuring the first round QB bust factor.

I guess I am being too deep? I give up.

htismaqe · 10-25-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

Some people (possibly you?) get offended by people who believe this is a weak QB class. Please try to be a little more open minded.

You're completely, unequivocally wrong.

**DeezNutz** · 10-25-2012, 12:13 PM

The '13 class is already good. It has the potential, though, to be incredibly deep and talented.

**Rausch** · 10-25-2012, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

No dude, he wasn't a first round QB. This is about figuring the first round QB bust factor.

I guess I am being too deep? I give up.

Yup.

That's the problem...

**The Franchise** · 10-25-2012, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

No dude, he wasn't a first round QB. This is about figuring the first round QB bust factor.

I guess I am being too deep? I give up.

So EVERY 1st round QB who doesn't make the pro bowl....is a bust?

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