2013 QB Class

[O.city]

This was posted in another thread by Milkman, but it got overlooked so I'm making a thread out of it.

I know, another QB thread. But this needs to be put out there for some of the "posters" here to see and think about.

The top three in this years class are in no particular order:

Geno Smith
Tyler Wilson
Matt Barkley

Thats not counting Bray, Glennon, Nassib, etc. Who are all talented in their own right.

So, many posters here want to say, "no not this year, this class is awful don't take one, there isn't a Luck or RGIII in the bunch", which isn't necessarily false.

No there isn't a once in a decade guy. Which is probably what Luck was. Hell even more there have been 2 guys of his stature come out in the last 20 or so years. Luck and Manning.

Yet there are franchise QB's all over the league. How is that so you may ask?

Lets take a look at the last 5 QB classes top 3 guys to come out and get drafted, taking out 2012's class.

2007
Jamarcus Russel
Brady Quinn
Kevin Kolb

2008
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
Brian Brohm

2009
Matt Stafford
Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman

2010
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Jimmy Clausen

2011
Cam Newton
Blaine Gabbert
Jake Locker

Look at those classes and no, you have to evaluate them at the time they were picked, not what they are now, we don't know what this years class will be in the NFL.

I'd argue that this years class is more loaded than any of those classes at the top and from top to bottom.

So, you wanna argue that this isn't a year to take a QB? I'll argue that its a great year to take a QB.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Sorter

I actually just went and looked at it.

JFC. We have the most ignorant fans of all time.

This......

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

I'd do that if it meant we moved to #2 and the Jags wanted Jarvis Jones.

They were talking about us having the #2 pick (Teicher doesn't think we'll have the #1 pick) and doing what the Rams did...

[Hoover]

He's an idiot.

The Rams could move because they had a young QB they used the first overall pick on and chose to stick with him. Chiefs situation is totally different.

[O.city]

If the Chiefs don't draft Geno, I hope he turns into Rodgers. This fanbase needs that thrown in it's face.


The Chiefs don't deserve a franchise qb.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by O.city

If the Chiefs don't draft Geno, I hope he turns into Rodgers. This fanbase needs that thrown in it's face.


The Chiefs don't deserve a franchise qb.

yes, the fanbase needs more thrown in it's face.



Being a Chiefs' fan has just been too easy ... spoiled.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

They were talking about us having the #2 pick (Teicher doesn't think we'll have the #1 pick) and doing what the Rams did...

I see why he ventured into sports reporting and stayed clear of any area that required use of his brain.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Laz

yes, the fanbase needs more thrown in it's face.



Being a Chiefs' fan has just been too easy ... spoiled.

Not spoiled, just brainwashed with low expectations.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

It's about that time of year. ESPN's NFL Draft guru Mel Kiper talked with reporters about the 2013 NFL Draft and had some intriguing things to say, especially about the quarterbacks.

Here's what people are saying about the conference call...

The quarterbacks

Kiper believes #WVU QB Geno Smith will be battling to be the second quarterback off the board in the NFL draft.
— Jenn Menendez (@JennMenendez) December 11, 2012

On conference call with reporters, Mel Kiper just said NC State's Mike Glennon could be top quarterback drafted, possible top-15 pick
— Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) December 11, 2012

ESPN's Mel Kiper says he sees Tennessee QB Tyler Bray in a 2nd- or 3rd-round range if he leaves. added that Vols OL is filled with 'studs.'
— Patrick Brown (@patrickbrownTFP) December 11, 2012

Kiper on Tyler Bray: "I'd like to see him go back to Tennessee for another year." Throws too many bad INTs. Probably 3rd Rd if he comes out
— Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) December 11, 2012

Kiper: VT's Logan Thomas is most talented QB in this draft.
— Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) December 11, 2012

Just asked Mel Kiper about #UGA QB Aaron Murray: "I would go back for another year. In big games he's struggled. 2nd/3rd rd pick"
— Zach Klein (@ZachKleinWSB) December 11, 2012

ESPN draft, hair guru Mel Kiper Jr. said Vols QB Tyler Bray could be top-5 overall pick if he returns for senior season.
— Wes Rucker (@wesrucker247) December 11, 2012

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Laz

yes, the fanbase needs more thrown in it's face.



Being a Chiefs' fan has just been too easy ... spoiled.

Laz, every year it's been "oh noes it's too risky" then later it's "we should have drafted this guy"


We have to many gutless fans who are fine with a good game day experience and a mediocre team that wins some games.


They don't deserve shit.

[htismaqe]

So Petro spent the last half hour talking about bringing in Joe Flacco.

He said flat out that he thought Joe Flacco was pretty meh (a "Brad Johnson" type is the comparison he made) but thought it was the best move the Chiefs could make.

He doesn't think Smith or Barkley are worth 1st-pick money - I wonder if he even considered the new CBA.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Flacco is awful.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

So Petro spent the last half hour talking about bringing in Joe Flacco.

He said flat out that he thought Joe Flacco was pretty meh (a "Brad Johnson" type is the comparison he made) but thought it was the best move the Chiefs could make.

He doesn't think Smith or Barkley are worth 1st-pick money - I wonder if he even considered the new CBA.

he's a ****ing idiot, like most of this fanbase

[Buckweath]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

So Petro spent the last half hour talking about bringing in Joe Flacco.

He said flat out that he thought Joe Flacco was pretty meh (a "Brad Johnson" type is the comparison he made) but thought it was the best move the Chiefs could make.

He doesn't think Smith or Barkley are worth 1st-pick money - I wonder if he even considered the new CBA.

Last time the Chiefs drafted a guy who was worth the #1 overall pick... Glenn Dorsey. Dorsey was probably as good a prospect as any defensive player in this draft. See what I mean??

People just need to understand that in the same way that you would never draft in the 1st round the best fullback prospect ever, you can easily take the best available QB prospect at #1 overall even if he is not a top 10 overall prospect. The QB position nowadays has HUGE value... more than you think.

Some will think I'm crazy but I'll tell you this... if given the choice between drafting 3 out of Jones, Lotulelei, Teo, Loeckel, Allen ... or drafting Geno Smith, I'd take Smith without hesitation because it's all irrelevant as long as you don't have the top QB and the sooner you can find that QB the better and that's not even talking about how a top QB makes your whole team better.

People say Geno Smith is no Griffin III or Luck, it's probably true, but really the next time there will come as good a prospect as those guys, the Chiefs won't be in position to draft him just like last year. You take Geno Smith and no ifs and buts.

[whoman69]

On a recent poll 85% of CP members agreed that its QB or Bust in the first round this year.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by O.city

Laz, every year it's been "oh noes it's too risky" then later it's "we should have drafted this guy"

We have to many gutless fans who are fine with a good game day experience and a mediocre team that wins some games.

They don't deserve shit.

I think every fan wants a better QB

Just because they aren't QB or bust, you get pissed.

even then, the number of those fans is so small.


Fan on Fan crime is the leading offense in Chiefs Nation


I think we should get a big group of guys and walk Arrowhead. Anyone found to be actually cheering the team should be deemed an enemy of the state and beaten until they bleed. Power to the PEOPLE!!!!