Chiefs Chiefs can rescind the tag on Albert - Page 7

**FRCDFED** · 03-05-2013, 09:22 AM

I thought I saw a comment yesterday that Albert could hold out if he thought there was a chance they were going to have him play guard. I am in no way condoning that; however, it appears from this article that it would be in his best interest to sign his tender and show up.

13 fewer tags than last year

Posted by Mike Florio on March 5, 2013, 8:39 AM EST

The dust has settled on the franchise-tag designation period. Unlike last year, when 21 tags flew, only three were applied in 2013.

So what gives?

The easy explanation is that this year’s crop of players eligible for the tag wasn’t as good as last year’s. But it’s likely more complicated than that.

Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco would have been this year’s Drew Brees, if the Ravens had been willing or able to carry his exclusive franchise tender, like the Saints did last year with Brees. These deals get done on a deadline basis, and for the Ravens the real deadline was having to choose between two equally bad evils: more than $19 million under the exclusive tag or nearly $15 million under the non-exclusive tag, along with an opportunity for the Browns to try to steal the Super Bowl MVP.

The Titans got cold feet regarding the possibility of using the franchise tag on tight end Jared Cook. or he would have been No. 9. If he’d signed the offer and if he’d then won the inevitable grievance arguing that he’s a receiver, the Titans would have been paying Cook more in 2013 than they’ll be paying Chris Johnson.

The Titans could have instead used the tag on kicker Rob Bironas. Last year, the tag was applied to six punter/kickers. But with the market for kickers and punters expected to be soft this year, teams other than the Colts apparently opted not to invest nearly $3 million in a veteran, given that low-cost options like Blair Walsh and Greg Zeuerlein were floating in last year’s draft pool.

The biggest factor for the lack of tags could have been the salary cap. Even though the franchise tenders are now based on the five-year average cap percentage consumed by the five highest-paid players at each position, it becomes more difficult to give one large chunk of cap space to one player at a time when the total cap grew by only 0.5 percent in 2012 and 1.9 percent in 2013. For too many teams, the upward pressure of salary increases coupled with a relatively static total spending limit has made eight-figure salaries for non-superstar players a luxury that no longer can be afforded.

It should be no surprise, for example, that the Patriots didn’t use it. At a time when quarterback Tom Brady’s cap number will be $13.8 million, how could they justify tying up $10.8 million in cornerback Aqib Talib or $9.8 million in tackle Sebastian Vollmer or $11.4 million in receiver Wes Welker?

The next question is whether the one-year franchise tenders will become long-term deals. Teams have until July 15 to make that transformation.

If not, the players who have received the franchise tenders but who won’t be signing them any time soon need to worry about something that hasn’t happened in eight years: A team rescinding the tag.

Chiefs left tackle Branden Albert should be specifically concerned about that. After all, his new head coach, Andy Reid, did it twice in Philly, to defensive tackle Corey Simon in 2005 and to linebacker Jeremiah Trotter three years earlier. If/when the Chiefs take left tackle Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the 2013 draft, Albert may want to quickly put pen to paper for his $9.828 million salary, or the chance to do so may permanently evaporate.

Then, he would end up on the open market in May, long after the big money has flowed for the year.

Given the new realities of a cap-strapped NFL, that’s a real concern that every franchise player should now have.

**Saul Good** · 03-05-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's called probability.

I've seen people that have NEVER watched a college game in their life win an NCAA tourney pool.

Exactly...probability.

You can win a small pick em bracket challenge based on luck. You aren't going to win a pool that extends over the course of an entire season based on luck.

patteeu · 03-05-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

What the **** else are you going to do with Joeckel, Pat?

You yourself said "No, it doesn't matter. If they suck they need to be replaced no matter what round they were picked in and if they're great they don't need to be replaced even if they were UDFA."

Branden Albert was GREAT. Prior to last year, Eric Winston was too.

So who are you replacing if it's not a guard, dipshit?

Branden Albert hasn't been GREAT. He's been improving and he was well above average when he was healthy the last couple of years. He hasn't been a top 5 LT. He may have been a top 10 LT, but I'd take the over if we set the line at 8. In a 32 team league, that's not what I'd call GREAT.

htismaqe · 03-05-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Exactly...probability.

You can win a small pick em bracket challenge based on luck. You aren't going to win a pool that extends over the course of an entire season based on luck.

Picking winners is an ENTIRELY different ballgame vs. what we're talking about in this thread.

Go ahead and defend him if you must. He's an obvious moron.

htismaqe · 03-05-2013, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Branden Albert hasn't been GREAT. He's been improving and he was well above average when he was healthy the last couple of years. He hasn't been a top 5 LT. He may have been a top 10 LT, but I'd take the over if we set the line at 8. In a 32 team league, that's not what I'd call GREAT.

You're an idiot.

patteeu · 03-05-2013, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Yet you'd take a wild swing at a LT who isn't even considered to be the #1 LT available.

No, I sure wouldn't.

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-05-2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Branden Albert hasn't been GREAT. He's been improving and he was well above average when he was healthy the last couple of years. He hasn't been a top 5 LT. He may have been a top 10 LT, but I'd take the over if we set the line at 8. In a 32 team league, that's not what I'd call GREAT.

Quality QB play/awareness would make him look even better.

Hell look at Clady under Manning/Tebow. It was ridiculous the difference in perception/level of play.

htismaqe · 03-05-2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

No, I sure wouldn't.

Then what's your point?

patteeu · 03-05-2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Dorsey and Reid just did EXACTLY THAT.

Alex ****ing Smith.

We're talking about the draft, big guy. It pays to be a dumb**** who can read. Really it does.

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-05-2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Then what's your point?

ManBearPig

htismaqe · 03-05-2013, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

We're talking about the draft, big guy. It pays to be a dumb**** who can read. Really it does.

Make sure to narrow the scope of your statement as much as you can so that you can cling to semantics and technicalities.

Your DC bullshit won't work here, mouthbreather.

patteeu · 03-05-2013, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Rookie OL struggled, yet the team ran the ball at will and the line graded out as a Top 10 unit, so piss away the pick on another high OL pick...awesome

Worst QB play in the history of the league, but it's a "waste" to spend a 1st and 2nd on the most important position.

Who graded them out as a top 10 unit?

patteeu · 03-05-2013, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Quality QB play/awareness would make him look even better.

Hell look at Clady under Manning/Tebow. It was ridiculous the difference in perception/level of play.

There's probably quite a bit of truth to that. It's definitely worth considering. Also worth considering is whether or not Branden Albert can be the long term LT solution. Is he signable? Is he able to stay healthy? Etc. I would hope that the answer to both of those is "yes", but if it's not or if it's "too early to tell", then the possibility of a future without BA has to be considered as well.

mr. tegu · 03-05-2013, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

There's probably quite a bit of truth to that. It's definitely worth considering. Also worth considering is whether or not Branden Albert can be the long term LT solution. Is he signable? Is he able to stay healthy? Etc. I would hope that the answer to both of those is "yes", but if it's not or if it's "too early to tell", then the possibility of a future without BA has to be considered as well.

No one denies that. Even Scott Pioli knew that which is why we have Donald Stephenson.

patteeu · 03-05-2013, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

No one denies that. Even Scott ***** knew that which is why we have Donald Stephenson.

And it would be great if Donald Stephenson had already emerged as the second coming of Anthony Munoz. As of now, though, he's still something of a question mark AFAICT. He's the only possible LTotF on the roster right now though. I'm not sure that's the best position to be in a year from now if BA is gone. That doesn't mean that 2013 1.1 is the only possible solution, but it is one of the possible solutions. (And the other solution, obviously, is to sign BA long term).

I'm on board for the BPA (at an impact position) at 1.1, whoever that is.

ToxSocks · 03-05-2013, 12:52 PM

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FRCDFED Line'em up Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: somewhere out there Casino cash: $9326297	Chiefs can rescind the tag on Albert I thought I saw a comment yesterday that Albert could hold out if he thought there was a chance they were going to have him play guard. I am in no way condoning that; however, it appears from this article that it would be in his best interest to sign his tender and show up. 13 fewer tags than last year Posted by Mike Florio on March 5, 2013, 8:39 AM EST The dust has settled on the franchise-tag designation period. Unlike last year, when 21 tags flew, only three were applied in 2013. So what gives? The easy explanation is that this year’s crop of players eligible for the tag wasn’t as good as last year’s. But it’s likely more complicated than that. Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco would have been this year’s Drew Brees, if the Ravens had been willing or able to carry his exclusive franchise tender, like the Saints did last year with Brees. These deals get done on a deadline basis, and for the Ravens the real deadline was having to choose between two equally bad evils: more than $19 million under the exclusive tag or nearly $15 million under the non-exclusive tag, along with an opportunity for the Browns to try to steal the Super Bowl MVP. The Titans got cold feet regarding the possibility of using the franchise tag on tight end Jared Cook. or he would have been No. 9. If he’d signed the offer and if he’d then won the inevitable grievance arguing that he’s a receiver, the Titans would have been paying Cook more in 2013 than they’ll be paying Chris Johnson. The Titans could have instead used the tag on kicker Rob Bironas. Last year, the tag was applied to six punter/kickers. But with the market for kickers and punters expected to be soft this year, teams other than the Colts apparently opted not to invest nearly $3 million in a veteran, given that low-cost options like Blair Walsh and Greg Zeuerlein were floating in last year’s draft pool. The biggest factor for the lack of tags could have been the salary cap. Even though the franchise tenders are now based on the five-year average cap percentage consumed by the five highest-paid players at each position, it becomes more difficult to give one large chunk of cap space to one player at a time when the total cap grew by only 0.5 percent in 2012 and 1.9 percent in 2013. For too many teams, the upward pressure of salary increases coupled with a relatively static total spending limit has made eight-figure salaries for non-superstar players a luxury that no longer can be afforded. It should be no surprise, for example, that the Patriots didn’t use it. At a time when quarterback Tom Brady’s cap number will be $13.8 million, how could they justify tying up $10.8 million in cornerback Aqib Talib or $9.8 million in tackle Sebastian Vollmer or $11.4 million in receiver Wes Welker? The next question is whether the one-year franchise tenders will become long-term deals. Teams have until July 15 to make that transformation. If not, the players who have received the franchise tenders but who won’t be signing them any time soon need to worry about something that hasn’t happened in eight years: A team rescinding the tag. Chiefs left tackle Branden Albert should be specifically concerned about that. After all, his new head coach, Andy Reid, did it twice in Philly, to defensive tackle Corey Simon in 2005 and to linebacker Jeremiah Trotter three years earlier. If/when the Chiefs take left tackle Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the 2013 draft, Albert may want to quickly put pen to paper for his $9.828 million salary, or the chance to do so may permanently evaporate. Then, he would end up on the open market in May, long after the big money has flowed for the year. Given the new realities of a cap-strapped NFL, that’s a real concern that every franchise player should now have.
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