Chiefs Knile Davis - Page 7

Dante84 · 04-28-2013, 05:59 PM

Okay, so I was pretty pissed when we took this kid. On paper, he has a shit ton of fumbles and Moeaki-like ankle.

However... watching this highlight tape, albeit from 2010, gave me wood.

2 RB's with 4.3 speed is not a bad thing. He runs hard, is tough to bring down, and has blazing speed. God forbid JC goes down at all, our entire offensive scheme wont have to be completely altered.

I don't like WHERE he was picked, but I'm glad he's a Chief, so long as he can bring this to the table:

AndChiefs · 04-29-2013, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Whew, ok, nice highlight clip... recent troubles forgiven if he brings that here.

Elite speed, solid power that he isnt afraid to use, yeah i likey this pick... Charles, Gray and this guy? thats a damn speedy sweet backfield, we should be able to absolutely run defenses ragged with this crew.

It's not his talent to me. It's his fumbling problems. He can't hold onto the ball.

Urc Burry · 04-29-2013, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Eyemsougly

Yeah, he's always had a knack for that. I've sometimes wondered if the same things that allowed him spot late round/udfa gems (Trent Cole, Sam Rayburn, Brent Celek, Quentin Mikell, Al Harris, Raheem Brock, Akeem Jordan, AJ Feeley, Jason Kelce, Artis Hicks, Joe Mays, AQ Shipley, Hank Fraley) caused him to screw up so many early rounders. Sort of like a drafting version of farsightedness.

Reid isn't even a bad early drafter, he's a good early drafter with sprinkles of suckage.

You've brought up some great points. I remember the eagles trading up in 2010.. EVERYBODY just knew they were going to take Earl Thomas.. And he completely blew it on Brandon Graham

Dante84 · 04-29-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AndChiefs

It's not his talent to me. It's his fumbling problems. He can't hold onto the ball.

Luckily, as Reid mentioned in the presser, he is aware and comfortable with Davis' ability to learn how to stop fumbling.

He solved McCoy's issues, and Tiki's. He knew the question was coming and addressed it before the media could even ask.

If he's comfortable, I'll take the wait and see approach.

**Easy 6** · 04-29-2013, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AndChiefs

It's not his talent to me. It's his fumbling problems. He can't hold onto the ball.

That can be coached out of him most likely, too much upside to worry too much about that imo.

Mike in SW-MO · 04-29-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AndChiefs

It's not his talent to me. It's his fumbling problems. He can't hold onto the ball.

That is concerning, but JC came with fumblaia as well.

Urc Burry · 04-29-2013, 11:15 AM

Adrian Peterson was a HUGE fumbler for a while. He seems to of got it fixed

Dante84 · 04-29-2013, 11:16 AM

Okay, so this from THIS season.

What to watch for:
:35 - Just an insane burst of speed, good hands, and breaks the Defense's back
1:20 - one step short of busting off 80
1:43 - almost goes house, gets hit from behind and drops it
2:05 - awesome spin move
2:25 - Looks like Jamal with the cut-and-go. Naaaaasty moves.
2:55- Horrible fumble
4:15 - Ground causes fumble
4:38 - Fumble that the Defense takes to the house. Inexcusable. Awful.

If the fumbling can indeed be fixed, we have a gem.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-29-2013, 11:39 AM

Every time I see his name, I think "Miles Davis".
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Urc Burry · 04-29-2013, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

Okay, so this from THIS season.

What to watch for:
:35 - Just an insane burst of speed, good hands, and breaks the Defense's back
1:20 - one step short of busting off 80
1:43 - almost goes house, gets hit from behind and drops it
2:05 - awesome spin move
2:25 - Looks like Jamal with the cut-and-go. Naaaaasty moves.
2:55- Horrible fumble
4:15 - Ground causes fumble
4:38 - Fumble that the Defense takes to the house. Inexcusable. Awful.

If the fumbling can indeed be fixed, we have a gem.

Watch his game against LSU from 2010 that's also on YouTube. He tore them up as an 18 yr old

okcchief · 04-29-2013, 12:05 PM

I believe Reid is telling the truth about Barkley. Of they want him they take him the night before. That's just speculation based on how a player fits the system. If that held true Barkley wouldn't be an Eagle right now. I still hate this pick though.

**Anyong Bluth** · 04-29-2013, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

Exactly, but with 4.3 speed...

Spot on, how many guys at 230 come around the corner with that deceptive speed, or his ability to hit the crease that quickly, because unless he has terrible balance or an abnormal high center of balance then good luck with arm tackling or trying to chip him to knock him off his feet. Could be a great RB #2 both for chewing clock, moving chains, yet has open field speed that means he can hit the homerun carry and take it to the house with far far less of a chance of being chased down unless somebody has a pretty sure angle on him and excels in open field tackling- which in these days isn't nearly as prevalent skill for a lot of DBs.

AndChiefs · 04-29-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

Okay, so this from THIS season.

What to watch for:
:35 - Just an insane burst of speed, good hands, and breaks the Defense's back
1:20 - one step short of busting off 80
1:43 - almost goes house, gets hit from behind and drops it
2:05 - awesome spin move
2:25 - Looks like Jamal with the cut-and-go. Naaaaasty moves.
2:55- Horrible fumble
4:15 - Ground causes fumble
4:38 - Fumble that the Defense takes to the house. Inexcusable. Awful.

If the fumbling can indeed be fixed, we have a gem.

I'm all for it if he works out. Maybe a couple years riding the pine and learning from NFL coaching will help fix the issue. I remember watching this game though and couldn't believe how many times he put the ball on the turf. He was laughably bad.

Direckshun · 10-29-2014, 02:34 AM

http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...their-patience

Knile Davis rewards Chiefs for their patience
By Adam Teicher | ESPN.com
Oct 26, 6:45 PM ET

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The training camp practice field for the Kansas City Chiefs in the summer of 2013 was littered with kickoffs that Knile Davis fumbled, bumbled, mishandled, misjudged and just plain dropped. The Chiefs were trying to make Davis into a star kickoff return specialist and clearly they saw something in him that wasn’t evident to anyone else paying attention.

Credit belongs to the Chiefs now that Davis has emerged from that humbling start to become one of the NFL’s most dangerous kickoff returners. Davis delivered a big play at a crucial moment Sunday when he brought back the second half kickoff 99 yards for a touchdown. It put the Chiefs ahead by 10 points in a game they would go on to win 34-7.

Special teams coach Dave Toub wouldn’t give up on Davis despite the early mishaps. Davis started to reward the Chiefs last season, when he returned a kickoff 108 yards for a touchdown in a game against the Denver Broncos.

He further validated Toub’s faith on Sunday.

“Knile is big and strong and fast," Chiefs coach Andy Reid said. “He hits it. You’ve got to have somebody that does that on kickoffs. You can’t have somebody back there that’s dancing. You have to have somebody that’s willing to see the hole and then go get it. He’s wired that way."

If the Chiefs can get the kind of big play on special teams they got against the Rams, they might be difficult to beat. They scored four special-teams touchdowns last season but had none this year until Davis had his return Sunday.

"This whole season we've been one of two blocks from getting in the end zone," Davis said. "Right before we took it, [Toub] said, 'We're overdue.'"

One look at the solidly built, 227-pound Davis and it’s easy to tell he has the power that Reid talked about. His speed is more of a surprise.

He put it on display on his touchdown return. He broke into the open around the Kansas City 40-yard line and then it became a footrace. Davis not only wasn’t caught, but he pulled away from the Rams who were chasing him.

If Davis isn’t as fast as fellow Chiefs running backs De’Anthony Thomas and Jamaal Charles, both college track stars, he’s close.

“Our whole backfield can run," Davis said. “We can all flat outrun."

Returning kicks is a relatively new experience for Davis. He was not a return man in college at Arkansas, so he had much to learn last year after being drafted by the Chiefs in the third round. For instance, the Chiefs don't just want Davis to catch the ball when returning a kick but catch it with his momentum heading up the field. That was the difficult part for Davis. Among other flubs, he dropped a return in the fourth quarter of a game last season against the Dallas Cowboys with the Chiefs holding a slim lead.

But through sheer repetition, he was able to get it down.

“It was a matter of him securing the football on the kicks," Reid said. “He had never done that before. Toub overloaded him with an abundance of returns during [last year’s] training camp and [offseason practice] and saw he was improving. So he decided to go with him last year a little bit and then this year.

“Good things have happened.”

Direckshun · 10-29-2014, 02:35 AM

Hats off to Dorsey for loading our backfield with three guys who can all clear 4.40 easy.

But huge, huge hats off to this great coaching staff. Davis has completely eliminated his fumblitis, and doesn't look injury prone in the least anymore.

Direckshun · 10-29-2014, 02:37 AM

Something I didn't know -- Davis didn't return kicks in college.

What the hell, Dave Toub. You are killing it.

04-28-2013, 05:59 PM
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $1451996 VARSITY	Knile Davis Okay, so I was pretty pissed when we took this kid. On paper, he has a shit ton of fumbles and Moeaki-like ankle. However... watching this highlight tape, albeit from 2010, gave me wood. 2 RB's with 4.3 speed is not a bad thing. He runs hard, is tough to bring down, and has blazing speed. God forbid JC goes down at all, our entire offensive scheme wont have to be completely altered. I don't like WHERE he was picked, but I'm glad he's a Chief, so long as he can bring this to the table:
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04-29-2013, 11:15 AM	#96
Urc Burry Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Casino cash: $9031048	Adrian Peterson was a HUGE fumbler for a while. He seems to of got it fixed
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04-29-2013, 11:16 AM	#97
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $1451996 VARSITY	Okay, so this from THIS season. What to watch for: :35 - Just an insane burst of speed, good hands, and breaks the Defense's back 1:20 - one step short of busting off 80 1:43 - almost goes house, gets hit from behind and drops it 2:05 - awesome spin move 2:25 - Looks like Jamal with the cut-and-go. Naaaaasty moves. 2:55- Horrible fumble 4:15 - Ground causes fumble 4:38 - Fumble that the Defense takes to the house. Inexcusable. Awful. If the fumbling can indeed be fixed, we have a gem. __________________ ..
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04-29-2013, 11:39 AM	#98
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04-29-2013, 12:05 PM	#100
okcchief MVP Join Date: Jul 2008 Casino cash: $9849890	I believe Reid is telling the truth about Barkley. Of they want him they take him the night before. That's just speculation based on how a player fits the system. If that held true Barkley wouldn't be an Eagle right now. I still hate this pick though.
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10-29-2014, 02:34 AM	#103
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4173447	http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...their-patience Knile Davis rewards Chiefs for their patience By Adam Teicher \| ESPN.com Oct 26, 6:45 PM ET KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The training camp practice field for the Kansas City Chiefs in the summer of 2013 was littered with kickoffs that Knile Davis fumbled, bumbled, mishandled, misjudged and just plain dropped. The Chiefs were trying to make Davis into a star kickoff return specialist and clearly they saw something in him that wasn’t evident to anyone else paying attention. Credit belongs to the Chiefs now that Davis has emerged from that humbling start to become one of the NFL’s most dangerous kickoff returners. Davis delivered a big play at a crucial moment Sunday when he brought back the second half kickoff 99 yards for a touchdown. It put the Chiefs ahead by 10 points in a game they would go on to win 34-7. Special teams coach Dave Toub wouldn’t give up on Davis despite the early mishaps. Davis started to reward the Chiefs last season, when he returned a kickoff 108 yards for a touchdown in a game against the Denver Broncos. He further validated Toub’s faith on Sunday. “Knile is big and strong and fast," Chiefs coach Andy Reid said. “He hits it. You’ve got to have somebody that does that on kickoffs. You can’t have somebody back there that’s dancing. You have to have somebody that’s willing to see the hole and then go get it. He’s wired that way." If the Chiefs can get the kind of big play on special teams they got against the Rams, they might be difficult to beat. They scored four special-teams touchdowns last season but had none this year until Davis had his return Sunday. "This whole season we've been one of two blocks from getting in the end zone," Davis said. "Right before we took it, [Toub] said, 'We're overdue.'" One look at the solidly built, 227-pound Davis and it’s easy to tell he has the power that Reid talked about. His speed is more of a surprise. He put it on display on his touchdown return. He broke into the open around the Kansas City 40-yard line and then it became a footrace. Davis not only wasn’t caught, but he pulled away from the Rams who were chasing him. If Davis isn’t as fast as fellow Chiefs running backs De’Anthony Thomas and Jamaal Charles, both college track stars, he’s close. “Our whole backfield can run," Davis said. “We can all flat outrun." Returning kicks is a relatively new experience for Davis. He was not a return man in college at Arkansas, so he had much to learn last year after being drafted by the Chiefs in the third round. For instance, the Chiefs don't just want Davis to catch the ball when returning a kick but catch it with his momentum heading up the field. That was the difficult part for Davis. Among other flubs, he dropped a return in the fourth quarter of a game last season against the Dallas Cowboys with the Chiefs holding a slim lead. But through sheer repetition, he was able to get it down. “It was a matter of him securing the football on the kicks," Reid said. “He had never done that before. Toub overloaded him with an abundance of returns during [last year’s] training camp and [offseason practice] and saw he was improving. So he decided to go with him last year a little bit and then this year. “Good things have happened.”
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10-29-2014, 02:35 AM	#104
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4173447	Hats off to Dorsey for loading our backfield with three guys who can all clear 4.40 easy. But huge, huge hats off to this great coaching staff. Davis has completely eliminated his fumblitis, and doesn't look injury prone in the least anymore.
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10-29-2014, 02:37 AM	#105
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4173447	Something I didn't know -- Davis didn't return kicks in college. What the hell, Dave Toub. You are killing it.
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