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**Tribal Warfare** · 05-30-2013, 04:02 PM

Chiefs like what they’ve seen so far from QB Alex Smith
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
The trade for quarterback Alex Smith might take another year or more to adequately assess, but at least from their part, the Chiefs may not feel the need to wait. Quarterbacks coach Matt Nagy came close to calling it a success after practice Thursday.

“He’s been everything that we thought he was,’’ Nagy said of Smith. “He’s a true professional. He’s in his (playbook) every day. He’s always asking questions, trying to get better. He’s being a leader for the other (quarterbacks) as well.’’

Smith, like the other Chiefs quarterbacks, has had his successes and failures on the practice field. He is learning a new offensive system under a new set of coaches and throwing to a new set of receivers.

Smith and his teammates are prohibited under NFL rules from working in pads, so at this time of year, practice is conducted at something less than full speed, and a better quarterback evaluation is generally done at training camp, when teams are allowed to hold padded practice sessions.

Most teams are generally pleased with their quarterbacks at this stage, when there is no defensive pressure for them to worry about. The Chiefs, for instance, were content with Matt Cassel at a similar point after trading for him in 2009. Once the games began, Cassel never developed into the player they thought he could become, and in March he was released.

The Chiefs believe they already have an accurate grasp of what Smith is capable of in a physical regard, having watched on tape all of his games as a starter with the San Francisco 49ers. But none of their key offensive figures, including Nagy, coordinator Doug Pederson or coach Andy Reid, who will call the plays, had any experience with Smith, so they weren’t certain what they would get from their new starting quarterback in terms of preparation and work habits.

That part of Smith’s game has provided them with some relief.

“He’s comfortable with what we’re doing,’’ Pederson said. “He’s understanding the terminology, and he’s orchestrating that at the line of scrimmage. We’re really pleased with where he’s at right now.’’

Those intangibles were the unknown.

“I’m with him every single day,’’ Nagy said. “Just talking X’s and O’s and past experiences he’s had, he brings some good things to our attention as a staff. He has a lot of valuable experience. He’s been through a lot. Having those experiences and coming in here to a team with a new staff, it’s been an awesome experience. Throughout this process, we’re taking in what he has, he’s taking in what we have, and we’re putting it all together and trying to make this work.

“When he’s out here on the practice field, he’s a leader. The guys look to him. The quarterback position is so important to be that leader, whether it’s vocally or by your play. He does both of that. Having him be able to do that and have some of these younger guys look up to him, that’s what we need, and that’s what we expected he’d have and he does have that.’’

In return for Smith, the Chiefs sent their second-round pick in this year’s draft plus a third-rounder next year that converts to a second if they win eight or more games this season. Smith would be worth any price if he becomes the long-term solution at a position that has been most elusive for the Chiefs.

“It’s been great,’’ Smith said of his first few practices with the Chiefs. “It’s been football. I’ve been itching for this for a long time. I was sitting there watching a lot of football at the end of last year. I’ve said this before: This is what I wanted, and now it’s here. I’m just trying to make the most of it.’’

The Chiefs also signed former Missouri quarterback Chase Daniel to be Smith’s backup, even though he’s thrown only nine passes in four seasons behind Drew Brees for New Orleans.

“It’s evident he’s been with such a great quarterback in Drew,’’ Nagy said. “He comes in and he’s very cerebral with the protections. He understands the game and he’s a competitor. He pushed Drew Brees every day in practice, and that’s what he’s going to do here with Alex.’’

Ricky Stanzi and rookie Tyler Bray are the other quarterbacks. Stanzi, who has been with the Chiefs for two seasons without getting into a regular-season game, began the offseason as the third quarterback, a significant fact this time of year only because he will get more snaps in practice.

Bray and Stanzi have since flipped spots, with Bray getting more practice snaps.

“I want to see each guy every day getting better,’’ Nagy said. “If one is a little bit behind the other, I want to see who that is and I want to see if he’s going to improve. Is he getting better? If he’s going backwards, that’s not what we want. Let’s see him improve.

“Let’s not put them against each other right now. Let’s just see where they’re at individually, and if you get better, that’s great. We’ll go from there.’’

Red Beans · 05-31-2013, 04:08 PM

For all the comparative shit that's being tossed around in the Alex/Matt venue. There's one big difference. Alex Smith did not just sign a fat ass contract. He's still on the two year deal. I have no doubt that if he's not the guy, there will be no contact extension. He's either going to produce this year or we'll be moving on. I'd bet on it.

keg in kc · 05-31-2013, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Beans

For all the comparative shit that's being tossed around in the Alex/Matt venue. There's one big difference. Alex Smith did not just sign a fat ass contract. He's still on the two year deal. I have no doubt that if he's not the guy, there will be no contact extension. He's either going to produce this year or we'll be moving on. I'd bet on it.

He's under contract through next year. And they're giving up another pick for him next year. I'd be pretty surprised if he's not here in 2014. Hence the "The trade for quarterback Alex Smith might take another year or more to adequately assess" shuck and jive.

**SAUTO** · 05-31-2013, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Well said. It's pathetic that many have quit on their team.. and even more pathetic that they still hang around a forum to cry about how they quit on their team. But what can ya do? Guess the silver lining is that at times, it can be mildly entertaining.

Its pathetic how bad some people make shit up.

how many have said they are quitting this team?

People hang around this forum due to being a fan. Most everyone around here has aspects of this team they are excited about.

Most everyone has aspects they aren't excited about. We are here to talk about all of that. Its the ****ing point of a message board.

I understand that you at a ****ing idiot that has issues comprehending simple logic though
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**SAUTO** · 05-31-2013, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

He's under contract through next year. And they're giving up another pick for him next year. I'd be pretty surprised if he's not here in 2014.

exactly we are having ANOTHER learning year for ANOTHER qb that has been in the league over five years...
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**Mav** · 05-31-2013, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Its pathetic how bad some people make shit up.

how many have said they are quitting this team?

People hang around this forum due to being a fan. Most everyone around here has aspects of this team they are excited about.

Most everyone has aspects they aren't excited about. We are here to talk about all of that. Its the ****ing point of a message board.

I understand that you at a ****ing idiot that has issues comprehending simple logic though
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i do love it when you go all bad ass. Its awesome lol

**SAUTO** · 05-31-2013, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

i do love it when you go all bad ass. Its awesome lol

None of that was me "going all bad ass"

But you are another ****ing idiot that probably doesn't understand a quarter of what he reads.
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Jersey49chief · 05-31-2013, 04:25 PM

Wow, I just joined not too long ago, and are some of you guys chiefs fans at all???? I'm being real, my wife has been a chiefs fan for over 15 years, and even she is like i dont like the fans now.
I told her it cant be that bad. You guys had non playing Cassell, and how long did he last for you guys. Smith helped lead the 49ers to 13-3. With almost the same thing we have over here. Good defense, good running game. Now a QB that has proven that he can not only come from behind and win. But has proven you can put the team on his back and he can help lead us to victories.
I could see if he was Tebow, or had no success. But like Harbaugh, Reid and company are catering the offense to Smith's strengths. And honestly it doesnt matter what they are, or are not.

Fact, he can get the ball down the field. He can make all the throws. He can read defenses, he can audible at the line, and he knows almost every position that the line and recievers should be in, in the huddle. I mean damn, pretty good Qb to look forward to having.

I've been in a few zones and i have to say, i sure hope the fanbase supports their players other than knock them. When whether u want to believe it or not. Smith is not Cassell, and Cassell isn't Smith. But oh yeah, now some wanna see how good Chase Daniel is, and he has only played in what like 11 games over 4 years.

Here's to hoping the true objective fans continue to post. cuz i hope it doesnt get too ridiculous in here

**buddha** · 05-31-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

No. If the goal is Super Bowl, then it is unimaginable that Alex Smith will work out well in KC.

Yes, because we all know that Alex Smith could never put his team in a position to get to the Super Bowl...oh, wait???

NinerDoug · 05-31-2013, 04:27 PM

Damn this is fun to watch. Kind of like a tornado, but nobody gets hurt.

Dayze · 05-31-2013, 04:29 PM

Alex won't be god awful like Cassel. he won't be a collossal failure like Cassel. He won't be very awesome either.

par for the course in Chiefs land.

Sandy Vagina · 05-31-2013, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

i do love it when you go all bad ass. Its awesome lol

yes indeed. Takes a big man to act tough and lash out behind his keyboard!

... but to the point (for internet tough guy), how many have given up? Too many. Don't act like there are not some that have openly admitted to quitting. That they already know what will takeplace, so all is lost for at least another season.

Unfortunately, the point of this forum for some is to cry gloom and doom every day to let out their frustration of being a loser for so long. You wish to deny that as well, tough guy? well... that is your right.. bury your head in the sand and wait for your f***ing prom. You are only lashing out because I hit a nerve and you know I am speaking truth here..

**Tribal Warfare** · 05-31-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

Alex won't be god awful like Cassel. he won't be a collossal failure like Cassel. He won't be very awesome either.

par for the course in Chiefs land.

Alex Smith will have to survive the season to determine how much FAIL KC traded for besides two 2nd round picks.

Dayze · 05-31-2013, 04:32 PM

on a 1-10 scale with Cassel being a banana, I think Smith will be about a5 or 6.

**buddha** · 05-31-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Beans

For all the comparative shit that's being tossed around in the Alex/Matt venue. There's one big difference. Alex Smith did not just sign a fat ass contract. He's still on the two year deal. I have no doubt that if he's not the guy, there will be no contact extension. He's either going to produce this year or we'll be moving on. I'd bet on it.

There is no doubt that you are right.

Dorsey and Reid are really smart guys. This will work out one way or the other.

BTW, any sane person has no thought of a Super Bowl after coming off a two win season. No...any smart fan would want to see the Chiefs improve incrementally, which is actually possible.

**Tribal Warfare** · 05-31-2013, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

on a 1-10 scale with Cassel being a banana, I think Smith will be about a5 or 6.

I'll give him a 3 according to that scale, with him being injured around game 8 or 9 and then out for an extended period or the season.

05-30-2013, 04:02 PM
Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $582813	Teicher:Chiefs like what they’ve seen so far from QB Alex Smith Chiefs like what they’ve seen so far from QB Alex Smith By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star The trade for quarterback Alex Smith might take another year or more to adequately assess, but at least from their part, the Chiefs may not feel the need to wait. Quarterbacks coach Matt Nagy came close to calling it a success after practice Thursday. “He’s been everything that we thought he was,’’ Nagy said of Smith. “He’s a true professional. He’s in his (playbook) every day. He’s always asking questions, trying to get better. He’s being a leader for the other (quarterbacks) as well.’’ Smith, like the other Chiefs quarterbacks, has had his successes and failures on the practice field. He is learning a new offensive system under a new set of coaches and throwing to a new set of receivers. Smith and his teammates are prohibited under NFL rules from working in pads, so at this time of year, practice is conducted at something less than full speed, and a better quarterback evaluation is generally done at training camp, when teams are allowed to hold padded practice sessions. Most teams are generally pleased with their quarterbacks at this stage, when there is no defensive pressure for them to worry about. The Chiefs, for instance, were content with Matt Cassel at a similar point after trading for him in 2009. Once the games began, Cassel never developed into the player they thought he could become, and in March he was released. The Chiefs believe they already have an accurate grasp of what Smith is capable of in a physical regard, having watched on tape all of his games as a starter with the San Francisco 49ers. But none of their key offensive figures, including Nagy, coordinator Doug Pederson or coach Andy Reid, who will call the plays, had any experience with Smith, so they weren’t certain what they would get from their new starting quarterback in terms of preparation and work habits. That part of Smith’s game has provided them with some relief. “He’s comfortable with what we’re doing,’’ Pederson said. “He’s understanding the terminology, and he’s orchestrating that at the line of scrimmage. We’re really pleased with where he’s at right now.’’ Those intangibles were the unknown. “I’m with him every single day,’’ Nagy said. “Just talking X’s and O’s and past experiences he’s had, he brings some good things to our attention as a staff. He has a lot of valuable experience. He’s been through a lot. Having those experiences and coming in here to a team with a new staff, it’s been an awesome experience. Throughout this process, we’re taking in what he has, he’s taking in what we have, and we’re putting it all together and trying to make this work. “When he’s out here on the practice field, he’s a leader. The guys look to him. The quarterback position is so important to be that leader, whether it’s vocally or by your play. He does both of that. Having him be able to do that and have some of these younger guys look up to him, that’s what we need, and that’s what we expected he’d have and he does have that.’’ In return for Smith, the Chiefs sent their second-round pick in this year’s draft plus a third-rounder next year that converts to a second if they win eight or more games this season. Smith would be worth any price if he becomes the long-term solution at a position that has been most elusive for the Chiefs. “It’s been great,’’ Smith said of his first few practices with the Chiefs. “It’s been football. I’ve been itching for this for a long time. I was sitting there watching a lot of football at the end of last year. I’ve said this before: This is what I wanted, and now it’s here. I’m just trying to make the most of it.’’ The Chiefs also signed former Missouri quarterback Chase Daniel to be Smith’s backup, even though he’s thrown only nine passes in four seasons behind Drew Brees for New Orleans. “It’s evident he’s been with such a great quarterback in Drew,’’ Nagy said. “He comes in and he’s very cerebral with the protections. He understands the game and he’s a competitor. He pushed Drew Brees every day in practice, and that’s what he’s going to do here with Alex.’’ Ricky Stanzi and rookie Tyler Bray are the other quarterbacks. Stanzi, who has been with the Chiefs for two seasons without getting into a regular-season game, began the offseason as the third quarterback, a significant fact this time of year only because he will get more snaps in practice. Bray and Stanzi have since flipped spots, with Bray getting more practice snaps. “I want to see each guy every day getting better,’’ Nagy said. “If one is a little bit behind the other, I want to see who that is and I want to see if he’s going to improve. Is he getting better? If he’s going backwards, that’s not what we want. Let’s see him improve. “Let’s not put them against each other right now. Let’s just see where they’re at individually, and if you get better, that’s great. We’ll go from there.’’
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05-31-2013, 04:08 PM	#91
Red Beans Not dead yet... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Indian Creek Casino cash: $3059903	For all the comparative shit that's being tossed around in the Alex/Matt venue. There's one big difference. Alex Smith did not just sign a fat ass contract. He's still on the two year deal. I have no doubt that if he's not the guy, there will be no contact extension. He's either going to produce this year or we'll be moving on. I'd bet on it.
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Jersey49chief Rookie Join Date: May 2013 Location: Jersey Casino cash: $10004900	Wow, I just joined not too long ago, and are some of you guys chiefs fans at all???? I'm being real, my wife has been a chiefs fan for over 15 years, and even she is like i dont like the fans now. I told her it cant be that bad. You guys had non playing Cassell, and how long did he last for you guys. Smith helped lead the 49ers to 13-3. With almost the same thing we have over here. Good defense, good running game. Now a QB that has proven that he can not only come from behind and win. But has proven you can put the team on his back and he can help lead us to victories. I could see if he was Tebow, or had no success. But like Harbaugh, Reid and company are catering the offense to Smith's strengths. And honestly it doesnt matter what they are, or are not. Fact, he can get the ball down the field. He can make all the throws. He can read defenses, he can audible at the line, and he knows almost every position that the line and recievers should be in, in the huddle. I mean damn, pretty good Qb to look forward to having. I've been in a few zones and i have to say, i sure hope the fanbase supports their players other than knock them. When whether u want to believe it or not. Smith is not Cassell, and Cassell isn't Smith. But oh yeah, now some wanna see how good Chase Daniel is, and he has only played in what like 11 games over 4 years. Here's to hoping the true objective fans continue to post. cuz i hope it doesnt get too ridiculous in here
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Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $4899358	Alex won't be god awful like Cassel. he won't be a collossal failure like Cassel. He won't be very awesome either. par for the course in Chiefs land. __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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05-31-2013, 04:32 PM	#103
Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $4899358	on a 1-10 scale with Cassel being a banana, I think Smith will be about a5 or 6. __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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